- From: Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:03:36 -0400
- To: public-web-perf <public-web-perf@w3.org>
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Web Performance Working Group Teleconference
24 Jun 2015
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2015/06/24-webperf-irc
Attendees
Present
Plh, Ilya, Bernhard, Todd, Michael
Regrets
Yoav
Chair
Ilya
Scribe
plh
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Review charter feedback and proposed process
updates
2. [5]time origin & workerStart
3. [6]attribute filtering
4. [7]revise "return copy"
5. [8]credentials in URLs
6. [9]linkNegotationStart
7. [10]Navigation Timing 2
8. [11]Call schedule for the summer
* [12]Summary of Action Items
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Review charter feedback and proposed process updates
[13]https://w3c.github.io/charter-webperf/
[13] https://w3c.github.io/charter-webperf/
Plh: I'll make it official tomorrow
<igrigorik>
[14]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2015Ju
n/0080.html
[14]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2015Jun/0080.html
/TR/performance-timeline would be in sync with the github
draft.
/TR/performance-timeline-<n>
/TR/performance-timeline
todd: should we have a branch in the repo that also contains
that snapshot?
Ilya: yes, snapshot with a branch seem reasonnable
... so the most recent would be gh-pages?
plh: yes
Resolved: Performance Timeline 2 can be published as a FPWD
Resolved: User Timing 2 can be published as a FPWD
Resolved: Server Tming can be published as a FPWD
Resolved: Preload can be published as a FPWD
/TR/performance-timeline -> /TR/performance-timeline-2
/TR/performance-timeline-1
Resolved: adopted the new versioning and branching
Resolved: WDs should be automatically published
[15]http://www.w3.org/TR/navigation-timing-2/
[15] http://www.w3.org/TR/navigation-timing-2/
time origin & workerStart
<igrigorik> [16]https://github.com/w3c/hr-time/pull/6
[16] https://github.com/w3c/hr-time/pull/6
Ilya: we should deprecate workerStart in favor of a translated
time based approach
Todd: didn't get feedback from Justin yet, makes sense from
him.
... we should wait for Boris to give a +1 as well
plh: you don't need to deprecate workerStart. it never made it
into a REC. just removing it is fine.
attribute filtering
<igrigorik>
[17]https://github.com/w3c/performance-timeline/pull/11
[17] https://github.com/w3c/performance-timeline/pull/11
Ilya: [summarizing the history].
[18]https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/perfo
rmance-timeline/blob/592576c94599a88aa6183d827e54fa46d822cdfb/i
ndex.html
[18]
https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/performance-timeline/blob/592576c94599a88aa6183d827e54fa46d822cdfb/index.html
Todd: ok to merge
Ilya: I'll merge and ping the list
revise "return copy"
[19]https://github.com/w3c/performance-timeline/issues/20
[19] https://github.com/w3c/performance-timeline/issues/20
Ilya: Chrome and Firefox do not return a copy of the array
... IE does
... can we remove the "copy"? it's still ok to return a copy
Todd: looks good to me
<mpb> Do we need to change language on the Performance Observer
interface too?
[20]http://w3c.github.io/performance-timeline/#the-performance-
observer-interface
[20]
http://w3c.github.io/performance-timeline/#the-performance-observer-interface
Ilya: yes, perf observer shouldn't return a copy either
credentials in URLs
[21]https://github.com/w3c/resource-timing/issues/7
[21] https://github.com/w3c/resource-timing/issues/7
Todd: it's been suggested that exposing credentials in URLs
through RT makes it easier to capture the credentials
... the move to Fetch will disallow this and fetch will speak
to it
Ilya: we can drop the credentials, but you won't get the same
value for the url. and if you use different credentials, you
won't be able to differentiate it
... I propose to close it as "wontfix"
... and let the browsers make their own decision (ie do as IE
by disallowing that type of request)
Resolved: wontfix
linkNegotationStart
plh: drop it?
[22]http://w3c.github.io/navigation-timing/#widl-PerformanceNav
igationTiming-linkNegotiationStart
[22]
http://w3c.github.io/navigation-timing/#widl-PerformanceNavigationTiming-linkNegotiationStart
Ilya: we haven't been successful at implementing
... we could ressurect it in the future if we have access to
the data.
Resolved: drop linkNegotiationStart
Navigation Timing 2
Todd: ALPN id / nextHopProtocol . has value and no plan for
implementation
... ditto for redirectCount
... should we do a snapshot of NT2?
plh: pb is that only IE supports it on top of performance
timeline
[discussion on the need to do snapshots of HRT2, PT2, and RT
first]
Ilya: open question related to nextHopProtocol into exposing
too much networking information
Todd: didn't think of that yet
Ilya: redirectCount. was about making resource timing
multi-fetch friendly
... if NT2 gets defined on top of RT, we won't need that
Todd: also some concerns about security/privacy of that one
Call schedule for the summer
Ilya: next one is 07/15
... then 08/12
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
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