- From: Arvind Jain <arvind@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:17:06 -0800
- To: Ilya Grigorik <igrigorik@google.com>
- Cc: Jatinder Mann <jmann@microsoft.com>, "public-web-perf@w3.org" <public-web-perf@w3.org>, "Reitbauer, Alois (Alois.Reitbauer@compuware.com)" <Alois.Reitbauer@compuware.com>
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Are there other use cases besides Analytics? Anne's comment about <a ping> is interesting. I think the fact that it could be disabled makes it unreliable enough to be used by web publishers - something to keep in mind for this new API. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ilya Grigorik <igrigorik@google.com> wrote: > For those who want to follow the discussion: > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2013JanMar/thread.html#msg391 > > ig > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Jatinder Mann <jmann@microsoft.com>wrote: > >> As a part of exploring the Beacon API, Alois and I have considered >> first reaching out to the Web Apps WG to see if we can update the XHR Level >> 2 specification, instead of inventing a new way to send data. I’ve started >> the below thread with the Web Apps WG. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks,**** >> >> Jatinder**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Jatinder Mann >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:03 AM >> *To:* 'annevk@opera.com'; 'public-webapps@w3.org' >> *Cc:* Reitbauer, Alois (Alois.Reitbauer@compuware.com) >> *Subject:* Beacon API**** >> >> ** ** >> >> The Web Performance working group has been tracking a known poor >> performance pattern involving XHRs. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> We have seen cases where analytics code will block the unloading of the >> document in order to send data. To guarantee that the data is sent to their >> servers, analytics will typically register a handler on the unload event,which will make a synchronous XHR call to submit the data. The synchronous >> XHR forces the browser to delay unloading the document, and makes the next >> navigation appear to be slower. There is little the next page can do to >> avoid this perception of poor page load performance.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Frankly, analytics don’t have many good options. Browsers will typically >> just ignore asynchronous XHR in an unload handler. Sending the data too >> soon may mean that they miss out on some data gathering opportunities. To >> solve this problem, the Web Performance WG has included writing a Beacon >> API in its charter [1]. This API would be an interoperable means for site >> developers to asynchronously transfer data from the user agent to a web >> server, with a guarantee from the user agent that the data will be >> eventually sent.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> However, instead of inventing a new way to send data, it may make sense >> to first explore whether we can update XHR to help in this scenario. This >> change could be as simple as adding an optional parameter to XHR, a new >> type of XHR (e.g., BeaconXHLHttpRequest), or just normative text on the >> expected user agent behavior when a synchronous XHR call is made in the >> unload event handler. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> How interested is this working group in taking on such work in the XHR >> Level 2 [2] specification?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks,**** >> >> Jatinder**** >> >> ** ** >> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/wiki/Web_Performance/Charter#Beacon **** >> >> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest2/ **** >> >> ** ** >> > >
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