- From: bergi <bergi@axolotlfarm.org>
- Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 11:36:45 +0200
- To: "Peintner, Daniel (ext)" <daniel.peintner.ext@siemens.com>
- Cc: Hydra <public-hydra@w3.org>, "public-wot-ig@w3.org" <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, "public-web-of-things@w3.org" <public-web-of-things@w3.org>
Hi Daniel, yes, I can join. I think explaining would take about 5min, depending on how many questions you have, 10-15min for this topic should be OK. bergi Am 22.08.2016 um 13:53 schrieb Peintner, Daniel (ext): > Hi bergi, > >> I can try to join the next call, if you would like to discuss this topic. > > I think that makes most sense. You can find webconf details on > https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf > > Please let me know whether you can join this weeks call and how much > time you would need to explain your point of view and we will arrange > also time for discussions. > > Michael Koster planned to look into Hydra also. > > Thanks, > > -- Daniel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Von:* bergi [bergi@axolotlfarm.org] > *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 16. August 2016 23:10 > *An:* Peintner, Daniel (ext) (CT RDA NEC EMB-DE) > *Cc:* Hydra; public-wot-ig@w3.org; public-web-of-things@w3.org > *Betreff:* Re: Call for WoT Implementations > > Hi Daniel, > > Am 11.08.2016 um 11:23 schrieb Peintner, Daniel (ext): >>> I have seen Hydra was mentioned in some older posts and wiki pages. Now >>> it looks like this group will create a new hypermedia API spec with the >>> Thing Description [3]. I was looking for mail or wiki page that contains >>> the arguments for that decision, but I haven't found anything. Is there >>> something written? Can you give me a link? >> >> Unfortunately I do not recall a discussion and scanning emails didn't >> help either. >> I added your comment under the "technical discussions" topic for the >> next webconf. >> >> Do you want to provide some further feedback or join a webconf to give >> some more insights? >> > > Actually, I would like to solve problems one level higher. Because of > the increasing number of things, I expect rules for actuators will be > not be configured or programmed in the near future. Instead, machine > learning will be used. That's the problem I would like to solve. It will > be a generic solution for any RDF data. Therefore I would like to have a > clean separation of RDF data and API description. But the API > description should be defined for the RDF model. In the properties and > actions of the Thing Description [1], names are used for referencing. > That's serialization dependent. Also using the hrefs property requires > to define it for every instance. Hydra defines the operations for RDF > classes and RDF properties. Because of that, the named nodes of the > actual data can be used. For example, I've defined a class "Apartment" > with a property "room" [2]. The triples of the apartment point to the > rooms [3]. So by defining which rooms the apartment has, it also > describes where to call the operations. Hydra was defined for HTTP only. > But I think it would be easy to extend the existing spec for other > protocols or defining a new ontology which extends the Hydra ontology. > > I can try to join the next call, if you would like to discuss this topic. > > bergi > > [1] > http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html#quick-start-td-samples > [2] > https://github.com/bergos/dark-horse-server/blob/master/public/vocab.ttl#L19 > [3] http://dark-horse.bergnet.org/
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