Re: Welcome to Web NFC Community Group

On 2017-06-13 02:02, steven branigan wrote:

Hi Steve,

I believe the mentioned GitHub issue https://github.com/w3c/web-nfc/issues/101 is what you are looking for.

A generic problem with user permissions is to make them understandable for ordinary users.

Hopefully users understand "Do you want to give your location to this application?".

It is not equally easy coming up with a suitable security question for low-level ISO accesses where the browser cannot do any assumptions about the application.  Anyway, this is a question for the browser vendors if they want to take this route.

To me the idea of starting a specific Web application for scanning tags still feels a bit impractical.

Anders

> Anders,
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> Sorry for the sparse information.  What I meant by saying 'reading RFIDs' was specifically related to HF 13.56 MHz  (ISO 15693 & ISO 14443) Class 1 & Class 2 tags.  Read only, passive RFID.
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> Your assumption that I want URL based NFC data is incorrect.
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> QRCodes are not what I am wanting.  I am assuming since this group exists, and so does the QRCode / URL method, that nobody here is looking for that solution either?
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> Obviously using native apps is the ideal route, however it is costly and creates multiple code bases that need to be continually maintained.  As I said in my introduction, I've been down that route before and I am now looking at what other options are available, that's how I found the group.  A single web app that could access the users device NFC module to read the RFID chip would free us from having to maintain multiple code bases.
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> Yes, reading RFID would require users granting permissions, similar to how geo-location requests currently work with chrome browsers.  I would have thought that was pretty obvious to the group by now.  Are you a new member too?
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> Steve B.
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> *From:* Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 June 2017 12:07:49 AM
> *To:* steven branigan; Kostiainen, Anssi; rob.moran@arm.com
> *Cc:* Web NFC (W3C)
> *Subject:* Re: Welcome to Web NFC Community Group
> On 2017-06-12 14:04, steven branigan wrote:
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> Pardon my ignorance, but what does "reading RFID via web browsers" mean in asset management context?
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> If you want to start a mobile browser at a specific URL based on NFC data, I believe that is possible right now without a new API.
> This is essentially what QR codes are currently used for.
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> Maybe you rather mean that the user opens a specific Web application and then scan RFID tags with that?
> To me that sounds like a rather awkward solution compared to a native App or the NFC URL method.  The URL method doesn't need any native application.
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> Using the Web for reading arbitrary RFID would (presumably) force users having to grant the specific Web application the permission to read RFID tags.
> Anyway, there seems to already be a GitHub "issue" for this application: https://github.com/w3c/web-nfc/issues/101

> 
> Regards,
> Anders
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>> Thanks Anssi,
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>> Happy to have joined the group and look forward to contributing in any way that I can.  Thanks for accepting me.
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>> A small bit about me.  I'm an Irishman living in Australia.  I've been working in the IT department for close to 6 years now, having graduated from University and emigrating in 2012.
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>> My main area of expertise is ERP and asset management, having worked in both areas predominantly during my 6 years in the industry.
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>> I have led projects that worked extensively with RFID, creating native applications that leveraged the internal NFC chipsets of mobile devices and, usb and Bluetooth connected RFID scanners.  Primarily these were asset management applications.
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>> My interest in the group is that I have just started another asset management project and I was researching the net to see what technologies were available for reading RFID via web browsers.  Since there are other similar projects that have been developed for accessing geolocation from devices, etc. I considered whether or not there was an NFC / RFID equivalent.
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>> Here it is.
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>> I like the use case in the groups documentation of library systems / tourise information where tourists can access information by scanning an RFID via a web browser.
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>> I think it is a very valid application of the technology.  Personally, my own project only needs to read the RFID serial and then uses that information as an access point to a dataset in a database.
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>> Anyway, I said I would keep it short and I am already rambling.  Looking forward to getting involved in any way I can.
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>> Regards,
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>> *Steven Branigan*
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>> *Ph:  +61 41 273 0172*
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kostiainen, Anssi [mailto:anssi.kostiainen@intel.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 20:32
>> To: rob.moran@arm.com; steven_branigan@hotmail.com
>> Cc: Web NFC (W3C) <public-web-nfc@w3.org>
>> Subject: Welcome to Web NFC Community Group
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>> Hi Rob, Steven,
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>> Welcome to the Web NFC Community Group!
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>> This group is specifying a Web NFC API that is browser-friendly and adheres to the Web's security model. We believe that means the API will not expose full, low level NFC functionality, but rather a higher level subset that is safe for Web pages, protects user privacy, and does not annoy users with unnecessary or complex permission requests.
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>> Below I share with you some pointers to get you started in this group.
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>> From the group's home page [1] you can find relevant resources, namely:
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>> * Charter [2] defines the goals, scope, deliverables
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>> * GitHub [3] is where the spec and supporting documents live:
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>> * Web NFC PI [4]
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>> * Use Cases [5]
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>> * Security and Privacy Considerations [6]
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>> * public-web-nfc@w3.org <mailto:public-web-nfc@w3.org> mailing list archived at [7]
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>> If you haven't yet done so, please review the group's Charter and the Web NFC API spec. Note that the group's mailing list [7] is automatically informed of significant activity in GitHub [3]. The GitHub notifications are prefixed with "[web-nfc]".
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>> Please feel free to open issues, add comments, submit pull requests in GitHub, and discuss any ideas on this mailing list.
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>> Also, I'd encourage you to introduce yourself and your interests toward this group on this list.
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>> Looking forward to working with you!
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>> Thanks,
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>> -Anssi (CG chair)
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>> [1] https://www.w3.org/community/web-nfc/

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>> [2] https://w3c.github.io/web-nfc/charter/

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>> [3] https://github.com/w3c/web-nfc

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>> [4] https://w3c.github.io/web-nfc/

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>> [5] https://w3c.github.io/web-nfc/use-cases.html

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>> [6] https://w3c.github.io/web-nfc/security-privacy.html

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>> [7] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-nfc/

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