Re: [Cloud Browser] minutes - 11 January 2017

Hi Alexandra,

Personally i would like to have an group note which describes the cloud browser architecture. We could say something about a split browser but this assumes that the reader is familiar with this concept. I believe it well make more sense to explain a cloud browser which is understandable on his own. Perhaps we could create a dedicated group note which explains the differences as they are very related?

Thanks,

Colin





On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:56, Alexandra K. Mikityuk <alex@sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de<mailto:alex@sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>> wrote:


Dear Colin,

great!, thank you for sharing.

I think its important to mention the main differencies in the group note also. As we discussed during the call it could be a summarized statement from the CBTF how do we see these differences (DOM mentioned by Mark, etc.). However, personally I do not think that we have to do it in such a detailed way. At the end of the day, we do not want to explain the SplitBrowser, but the CB concept. So it would be helpfull to put only the information that helps to understand the CB.

The extended comparison could become a part of the long architecture document that might be published together with UCs/Reqs at the end of the TF lifetime.

Best,
Alexandra.

Am 20.01.17 um 15:10 schrieb Meerveld, Colin:
As discussed during the meeting i added an article [1] which explains the differences between a cloud browser and a so-called split browser. I am not sure if we need to put it in the group note as-well.

Any comments and suggestion will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Colin

[1] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/cloud_browser_vs_split_browser

On 11 Jan 2017, at 16:54, Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org<mailto:ashimura@w3.org>> wrote:

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2017/01/11-webtv-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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                      Web&TV IG - Cloud Browser TF

11 Jan 2017

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2017/01/11-webtv-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Alexandra, Colin, Kaz

   Regrets
   Chair
          Alexandra

   Scribe
          kaz

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Welcome2017
         2. [5]Short update of 2016
         3. [6]Current task - Architecture Group Note
     * [7]Summary of Action Items
     * [8]Summary of Resolutions
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Welcome2017

   alexandra: happy to find this new slot
   ... would like to ask people actively participated in the TF if
   they can participate this year as well
   ... the Cloud Browser TF has been extended until 30 April 2017
   ... and possibly can be extended until TPAC after the IG's
   extension

Short update of 2016

   alexandra: Colin has generated draft spec
   ... want to propose work on the draft and use cases in parallel
   ... talk about the draft first and then use cases next
   ... which work to be published as a group note?
   ... would propose Colin talk about the draft note

Current task - Architecture Group Note

   colin: draft on the wiki page
   ... highlights the basic concept of Cloud Browsers

   ->
   [9]https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_T
   F/groupnote draft for the group note

      [9] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/groupnote

   alexandra: updated the diagram
   ... question on how to call the client
   ... Cloud Browser's client
   ... just put "EasyClient" as the term now
   ... if OK by you, would like to go with that

   kaz: maybe we should have a terminology section at the top of
   the document

   alexandra: tx
   ... the second one is description of components

   <alexandra> 1. easyclient

   <alexandra> 2. component description

   <alexandra> 3. split browser?

   <alexandra> 4. approach description

   alexandra: component description is kind of terminology section
   ... and then provide a couple of sentences for split browser

   colin: it is actually far from "easy" :)
   ... the name should imply what it does
   ... "client" has some specific meaning and Cloud Browser's
   client is a bit different from usual clients

   alexandra: can we stuck with "Cloud Browser Client"?

   kaz: we can start with that friendly term :)

   alexandra: and we can use "Cloud Browser Client" in our
   description

   colin: yes

   alexandra: ok
   ... next "component description"

   colin: is that a terminology section?

   alexandra: depends on how we start the document

   -> [10]https://www.w3.org/TR/hnreq/ home network requirements
   note

     [10] https://www.w3.org/TR/hnreq/

   kaz: we can use that note as a template

   alexandra: every term is defined at the beginning

   kaz: actually, we can start with actual requirements and pick
   up difficult terms and add them to the terminology section
   later

   colin: brief description of terms

   alexandra: we don't really have requirements at the moment

   kaz: we can simply describe our architecture instead

   <alexandra> ... intro, terminology, architecture section (with
   subsection 1-7 in current version)

   kaz: that could be an initial structure

   alexandra: ok
   ... can start the terminology section
   ... should we include some text about what we do and what we
   don't do

   colin: in the client section, I tried to explain the difference
   ... like split browser
   ... could help people understand the difference

   alexandra: would propose we have a separate section to explain
   the difference from usual browser

   colin: will do that

   kaz: if it's easier for you to directly use HTML, you can start
   to use GitHub

   colin: no problem with wiki or GitHub

   alexandra: will restructure the draft based on the discussion
   ... and start terminology section
   ... let's start to review in 2 weeks
   ... and then put the draft on the group's review

   colin: sounds like a good plan
   ... good to get more people

   kaz: quick question
   ... will on work on the use cases in parallel?

   alexandra: no, we'll concentrate on the architecture group note
   ... and then will work on the use cases

   kaz: ok, tx for your clarification

   [ adjourned ]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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