RE: [Cloud Browser] minutes - 8 June 2016

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From: Kazuyuki Ashimura [mailto:ashimura@w3.org]
Sent: Mittwoch, 8. Juni 2016 16:25
To: public-web-and-tv@w3.org
Subject: [Cloud Browser] minutes - 8 June 2016

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2016/06/08-webtv-minutes.html

also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Colin and Alexandra!
Kazuyuki

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                      Web&TV IG - Cloud Browser TF

08 Jun 2016

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/06/08-webtv-irc


Attendees

   Present
          Alexandra, Nilo, Colin, Kaz, So

   Regrets
   Chair
          Alexandra

   Scribe
          colin, alexandra-mikityuk

Contents

     * [3]Topics
     * [4]Summary of Action Items
     * [5]Summary of Resolutions
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   <alexandra-mikityuk> agenda

   <alexandra-mikityuk> [6]http://www.gsma.com/


      [6] http://www.gsma.com/


   <inserted> scribenick: colin

   alexandra: contacted GSMA and invite them to the TF. They are
   discussing cloud browsing topics and could have valuable input
   ... plan for now finishing up architecture
   ... summarise discussions in email

   <inserted> scribenick: alexandra-mikityuk

   colin: last email Colin sent on the proposal of CB archs
   ... explanations on SS CLoud Player and DS Local Player
   ... If you have out of band media you still can control it from
   the cloud
   ... in band media - you can control it in the cloud, ot locally

   <kaz> s

   colin: not sure its more understandable
   ... now its better
   ... Nilo - main concern - if someone else is reading this page
   ... Its very hard to understand for other ppl
   ... combine - from 1 place
   ... separate - from different places
   ... Nilo - we have to make it cristal clear
   ... could you explain more?
   ... either you send it together for a single stream
   ... or you separate them - so they come from DIFFERENT places
   ... Alexandra's task - to make it clear
   ... implementation case: 1st scenario - UI is sent to the
   client directly, media delivered separatly
   ... 2nd - they are mixed together - and control then are sent
   by the cloud browser
   ... end user request is sent to the CB
   ... we could use 2 scenarios: SS CLoud Player, DS Local Player
   ... Nilo: 1st case - over the CB, 2nd case - directly to the
   client

   <colin> alexandra: will update approaches section on the wiki

   colin: Nilo: out of band case - 2 cases: one - client is
   sending state to the CB, another - client sends the key strokes
   to the CB
   ... what is about the state that we send to the CB?
   ... Colin: we have a broadcast signal - CB needs to know what
   channel you are on
   ... then the client will send the state to the CB
   ... Nilo - could we use this example for both?
   ... Nilo - trickplay -
   ... Nilo: what is equivalent of that for the 2nd approach?
   ... colin: its the state

   <inserted> scribenick: colin

   alexandra: will put an example what happens on the client and
   what happens in the cloud.

   <NiloMitra>
   [7]https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_T

   F/Architecture

      [7] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/Architecture


   nilo: bothered with a few words in the terminology such as
   rendering. Some words are not clear. Ask the team to to
   explain.

   alexandra; explains why they choice the terms.

   Nilo: rendering is done in every stage.

   alexandra: different terms ui rendering, video rendering. broad
   term indeed. should use different terms for that
   ... nilo will update the wiki and will update the mailing list
   ... will update the terminology for an application
   ... question to the group. remove discovery use case.

   colin: thinks is still needed

   alexandra: do we need different levels of requirements?

   kaz: up to the group. Could try and revisit the requirements

   alexandra: we don't have a lot af requirements. Propose not to
   use levels. maybe ofter TPAC?
   ... put section synchronisation for use cases

   colin: will update communication use cases according to the
   template

   <kaz> [ adjourned ]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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