RE: [Cloud Browser] minutes - 17 February 2016

Dear Kaz, dear Colin,

Thank you for the provided minutes.

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From: Kazuyuki Ashimura [mailto:ashimura@w3.org]
Sent: Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2016 18:25
To: public-web-and-tv@w3.org
Subject: [Cloud Browser] minutes - 17 February 2016

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html

also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Colin!
Please note that the next Cloud Browser TF call will be held
two hours earlier (=9am US Eastern, 6am US Pacific, 3pm Europe,
10pm China, 11pm Korea/Japan) on March 2.
Kazuyuki

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                               - DRAFT -

                      Web&TV IG - Cloud Browser TF

17 Feb 2016

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-irc


Attendees

   Present
          Kaz, Alexandra, Bill, Colin, Nilo, Calin, Julian

   Regrets
   Chair
          Alexandra

   Scribe
          Colin

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]brief self introduction
         2. [5]agenda and organisational issues
         3. [6]architecture discussion
         4. [7]use cases
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     * [9]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   <alexandra_mikityuk> hi

   <kaz> scribenick: colin

   <kaz> scribe: Colin

brief self introduction

   alexandra propose short introduction

   kaz staff contact w3c

   bill_rose representing NBC universal

   calin irdeto (first time in meeting)

   colin from active video (activevideo has a cloud browser
   solution)

   milo from erricson

   1 invited expert (colin)

   alexandra: irdeto provides security solution
   ... contribute with there cloud network
   ... has rdk reference

agenda and organisational issues

   alexandra: agenda: 3 items organisational issues, general
   issues architectural and use cases
   ... two subpoint organisation: add name to the participation
   list (wiki)

   <kaz> [10]TF participants list

     [10] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/Cloud_Browser_TF_Participants


   alexandra: second point: time slot conference call. change for
   entrix. they propose same day but two hours earlier

   <kaz> [11]Doodle poll

     [11] http://doodle.com/poll/a87tx7tdxsgciy4k


   alexandra: not reschedule time (doodle) but maybe next week
   ... nobody has problems attending 2 hours earlier

   RESOLUTION: The time slot for the Cloud Browser TF call will be
   2-hour earlier (=9am Eastern) on Wednesday every two weeks
   starting with the next call on March 2

architecture discussion

   <inserted> [12]Architecture

     [12] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/Architecture


   alexandra: provided important links in mail
   ... architecture discussion is important because it is
   different (normally not discussed)
   ... go through section wiki architecture
   ... added terminology
   ... alexandra describe some terminology
   ... the cloud browser is a UA initiated in the cloud

   alexandra: out-of-band media is used in the double stream
   approach
   ... added section evolution
   ... main architecture from a perspective of DT
   ... single stream could be any data and render it into stream
   to the user

   alexandra: double stream separate streams to the user. could be
   needed in a broadcast network
   ... cloud player is used for single stream
   ... local player is used for double stream
   ... two different aspects for delivering video to the player
   ... maybe useful to add a matrix
   ... alexandra specify terminology in matrix
   ... with detail explanation

   kaz: suggest to add a diagram even made by hand

   alexandra will add a diagram

   <kaz> ACTION: alexandra to add a diagram on the architecture to
   the wiki [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html#action01]

     [13] http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-212 - Add a diagram on the
   architecture to the wiki [on Alexandra Mikityuk - due
   2016-02-24].

   kaz: suggest to add comments to the architecture

   <inserted> scribenick: kaz

   ... we could clarify which part of the architecture is the core
   and stable, and which part is flexible

   julian: ask question: do we define the approach.

   <inserted> scribenick: kaz

   <kaz> colin: we started this wiki to clarify the architecture
   design

use cases

   <inserted> scribenick: colin

   <kaz> [14]Use Cases

     [14] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/UseCases


   alexandra: added cloud 360 use case
   ... also edited audio but not complete
   ... also web conferencing. describe web conferencing on the
   cloud browser

   kaz: describe the process of creating use cases. i.e discuss
   this in the calls

   <inserted> scribenick: kaz

   alexandra: is it OK to deal with game use cases here?

   kaz: if somebody is interested, we can try

   colin: the use cases are quit specific
   ... we might want to try some simpler use cases?

   alxandra: there are different positions/sides
   ... so might make sense to have two separate use case documents

   colin: what I meant was rather some key input for use cases
   ... simple use cases
   ... not saying one is better than the other

   kaz: do you mean we should categorize the use cases?

   colin: yes, e.g., input category
   ... that would make sense to me

   kaz: in that case, maybe you can add your ideas on possible
   categories
   ... to the wiki
   ... and we can classify the existing use cases based on that
   ... also we can add some more use cases

   alexandra: let's do that

   <inserted> scribenick: colin

   alexandra: anyone could add use cases to the wiki page
   ... work to do on the use cases. maybe some people on the line.
   e.g., Louay was interested in Cloud 360
   ... no questions ...
   ... will put link to the public mailing list

   next call in two weeks (=March 2) two hours earlier

   * thanks kaz for helping me

   <alexandra_mikityuk> thank you both!

   <kaz> [ adjourned ]

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: alexandra to add a diagram on the architecture to
   the wiki [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html#action01]

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html#action01


Summary of Resolutions

    1. [16]The time slot for the Cloud Browser TF call will be
       2-hour earlier (=9am Eastern) on Wednesday every two weeks
       starting with the next call on March 2

   [End of minutes]
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