Re: [webtv] minutes - 17 December 2015

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Yosuke Funahashi <yosuke@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi Kaz,
>
> Thank a lot for scribing the meeting.
>
> Could you add my name to the Present field please?
>

done.

Sorry,

Kazuyuki



>
> Yosuke
>
> On December 18, 2015 at 3:17:52 AM, Kazuyuki Ashimura (ashimura@w3.org)
> wrote:
>
> available at:
>   http://www.w3.org/2015/12/17-webtv-minutes.html
>
> also as text below.
>
> Kazuyuki
>
> ---
>
>    [1]W3C
>
>       [1] http://www.w3.org/
>
>                                - DRAFT -
>
>                                Web&TV IG
>
> 17 Dec 2015
>
>    [2]Agenda
>
>       [2]
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-web-and-tv/2015Dec/0001.html
>
>    See also: [3]IRC log
>
>       [3] http://www.w3.org/2015/12/17-webtv-irc
>
> Attendees
>
>    Present
>           Kaz_Ashimura, Bill_Rose, Colin_Meerveld,
>           Glenn_Goldstein, Kazuhiro_Hoya, Lauri_Ilola,
>           Mark_Vickers, Giuseppe_Pascale, Bin_Hu,
>           Karen_Myers
>
>    Regrets
>    Chair
>           Mark
>
>    Scribe
>           kaz
>
> Contents
>
>      * [4]Topics
>          1. [5]review of f2f discussion
>          2. [6]action items from the f2f
>      * [7]Summary of Action Items
>      * [8]Summary of Resolutions
>      __________________________________________________________
>
> review of f2f discussion
>
>    mark: the purpose is reviewing what happened at TPAC
>
>    ->
>    [9]https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Face-to-face_meeting_duri
>    ng_TPAC_2015 TPAC f2f agenda wiki
>
>       [9]
> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Face-to-face_meeting_during_TPAC_2015
>
>    mark: slides are available on the wiki
>    ... overview I presented covers the history
>    ... some of the topics coming up as well
>    ... TV Control API
>    ... presented by Sean Lin
>    ... it is a Community Group spec
>    ... reviewed before TPAC
>    ... got interest from web developers
>    ... also from browser developers and standard groups like ATSC
>    ... who sent a liaison letter
>    ... there is interest to move that to a WG
>    ... to bring the spec to standard
>    ... is there further update about the spec?
>
>    bin: yes
>    ... we officially published the spec v 1.0
>    ... also generating a draft charter
>    ... transition ongoing
>
>    -> [10]http://www.w3.org/2015/tvapi/ TV Control API v1.0 spec
>
>      [10] http://www.w3.org/2015/tvapi/
>
>    -> [11]http://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/tvcontrol-2015.html
>    draft WG charter
>
>      [11] http://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/tvcontrol-2015.html
>
>    bin: also BBC and automotive TF are interested in working for
>    the v2 use cases
>
>    mark: great
>    ... anybody interested is welcome to work for the group
>    discussion?
>
>    bin: yes
>    ... everybody welcome to join the group and participate in the
>    discussion on the public list
>
>    karen: wondered if there is any specific company interested in
>    W3C CES suite?
>
>    bin: let's talk about that offline later
>
>    <Karen> karen@w3.org
>
>    karen: put her email address
>
>    mark: liaison for the CG discussed with the Web&TV IG
>    ... Bin sent a detailed response to ATSC
>    ... all the questions are mentioned by the response
>    ... any more questions on TV Control API CG?
>
>    (none)
>
>    mark: move on
>    ... GGIE task force
>    ... Glenn Deen is the moderator
>    ... the GG TF is an active TF with 20 participants
>    ... working for requirements document
>    ... detailed overview and next steps provided
>
>    glenn: gap analysis and requirements
>    ... spoked with IETF in Yokohama
>    ... heads-up on what need to be handled
>    ... new group named GIVE
>    ... looking at content delivery
>    ... what standards exist, etc.
>    ... what W3C is doing, etc.
>
>    mark: formal standardization organization
>    ... CTA formerly CEA
>
>    glenn: set up interoperability discussion
>    ... plugfest to consider what to standardize
>    ... particularly focused HTML5-based video delivery
>
>    mark: update after new years?
>
>    glenn: yes, after CES
>    ... not on my schedule yet, though
>
>    mark: any questions?
>
>    karen: same question would talk about offline
>    ... who wants to see more engaged in GG work
>
>    glenn: would see W3C setting up liaison
>    ... number of crossed members
>
>    karen: content providers?
>    ... who is missing?
>
>    glenn: number of people
>    ... Comcast, etc.
>    ... TV manufacturers involved
>    ... giving a presentation at CES
>    ... Thu. 7th Jan.
>
>    mark: 10am local time
>    ... in the LV convention center S105
>
>    karen: tx
>
>    mark: anything else?
>
>    (none)
>
>    mark: next topic is summary on update on sourcing in-band media
>    resource tracks
>    ... CG created out of the Web&TV IG discussion
>    ... Bob Lund and Silvia Phifer
>    ... that spec is basically a series of media transport
>    ... MPEG Transport, etc.
>    ... HTML5 data access
>    ... every HTML5 UA provides access for data stream
>    ... mapped with the same way
>    ... referenced by the HTML5 spec
>    ... it's also possible to be extended
>    ... further for HLS, etc.
>    ... not sure if the spec is published as a final spec
>    ... referenced from the HTML5 spec
>    ... any questions?
>
>    (none)
>
>    mark: then we had a sort of seminar session
>    ... update on use of Web platform
>    ... adapted in the TV world
>    ... update on some of them
>    ... Giuseppe presented HbbTV
>    ... Hybridcast by NHK
>    ... DLNA by Mark
>    ... RDK
>    ... and ATSC 3.0 by Giri
>    ... HTML5 usage for external specs
>    ... feel free to provide further update
>    ... would expect there will be some commercial products at CES
>    ... questions?
>
>    (none)
>
>    mark: moving along
>    ... update on 2 important specs, MSE and EME
>    ... JavaScript APIs for adaptive video for media streaming
>    ... and media decryption capability
>    ... widely implemented
>    ... work continuing
>    ... EME has more open bugs
>    ... expected to fixed in 2016
>    ... very active thread in the HTML media TF
>    ... since TPAC, reorganization on HTML work
>    ... HTML WG and WebApps WG held discussion on the central Web
>    technology
>    ... have become the Web Platform WG
>    ... and separate Web Media Extension WG
>    ... currently under vote by the AC
>    ... extending the HTML WG and rename it to the Web Media
>    Extension WG
>    ... MSE/EME to be completed
>    ... under vote now
>    ... AC reps to vote
>    ... please contact your AC reps and ask them to respond
>    ... please do vote on that!
>
>    <Karen> +1 Mark for bringing up the topic
>
>    mark: next topic: Timed Text WG update by Nigel
>    ... rechartering for the group
>    ... looking into the charter process
>    ... not sure whether it's completed or still ongoing
>
>    giuseppe: thought already rechartered
>
>    karen: see Nigel on the IRC but not on the call
>
>    -> [12]http://www.w3.org/2014/03/timed-text-charter.html timed
>    text wg charter
>
>      [12] http://www.w3.org/2014/03/timed-text-charter.html
>
>    karen: second version of TTML
>    ... we were belatedly aware that W3C's TTML is awarded at Emmy
>    in January
>    ... excited with this news
>    ... PLH will accept the award
>
>    mark: congrats!
>    ... recognition for the good work
>    ... some new work there
>
>    karen: IMSC?
>
>    mark: right
>
>    <Karen> Pierre-Anthony Lemieux from MovieLabs submitted a TTML
>    Text and Image Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and
>    Captions 1.0 (IMSC11)
>
>    mark: great job for Emmy
>
>    karen: HBO, Netflix, SIMPTE, etc.
>
>    <Karen> Telestream are also honorees in the category of:
>    "Standardization and Pioneering Development of Non-Live
>    Broadband Captioning"
>
>    mark: next is takeaways from the Web&Digital Marketing WS
>    ... by Wendy
>    ... maybe somebody has comments?
>    ... you can find slides on that
>    ... and could contact Wendy
>    ... next: updates from the Second Screen Presentation WG
>    ... Louay gave presentation
>    ... gathering interest in browser support
>    ... move on
>
>    <Karen> For Digital Marketing:
>    [13]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oRWicOffMfGNEBRHcNgtItp
>    kFCgXar949QdOYz4S1g0/edit
>
>      [13]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oRWicOffMfGNEBRHcNgtItpkFCgXar949QdOYz4S1g0/edit
>
>    mark: very interesting presentation on test runner
>    ... W3C Web Platform Test doesn't work with TV very well
>    ... discussion and demonstration on adapting platform test
>    runner to TV
>    ... great work
>    ... questions?
>    ... Yosuke, any update?
>
>    yosuke: clarifying the requirements
>    ... to improve the mainstream test runner
>    ... adapting it to TVs
>    ... would upload to the GitHub shortly
>    ... contacted test runner writers
>    ... planning to write a W3C blog entry on that
>
>    mark: great
>    ... tx for the update
>    ... very impressive demo
>    ... lot of inclusions in TVs which should go into HTML5
>
>    kaz: agree this is important and should be useful to improve
>    the test runner for vehicle API by the Automotive WG, etc.
>
>    mark: would be great to have a video on the blog post
>
>    yosuke: great idea
>    ... would try
>
>    mark: any question?
>
>    (none)
>
>    mark: next
>    ... Multi Device Timing CG
>    ... the spec and implementations are very tightly tied together
>    ... good demonstration at TPAC
>    ... recently call for interest
>    ... much interest in multiple devices
>    ... would more IG people to work on that
>    ... next: Cloud Browser APIs TF
>    ... cloud browsers have different approaches
>    ... decided to have a TF to standardize them
>    ... create a Cloud Browser APIs TF
>    ... GGIE also continues
>    ... one week after
>    ... cloud browser TF is well-prepared
>    ... got right people and timing
>    ... will get strong requirements document
>    ... may go into a new CG or some existing WG
>    ... transitioning to WG
>    ... encourage people to participate in the TF in January
>
>    karen: not sure if Colin introduced himself
>
>    mark: great
>
>    colin: working for ActiveVideo
>    ... virtualization of video stream
>    ... focus on APIs
>
>    <Karen> Welcome, Colin!
>
>    mark: great
>    ... overall goal of the Cloud Browser APIs TF is having
>    standard API
>    ... for multiple different implementations
>    ... different server implementations as well
>    ... makes a lot sense
>    ... pleased to have your expertise
>
> action items from the f2f
>
>    mark: the first agenda item is TV Control API
>    ... Sean Lin to email IG inviting review of the spec
>    ... GGIE TF
>    ... continue the current work
>    ... world wide TV specs
>    ... Mark to start new Web Media Profile CG
>    ... continue joint work
>
>    kaz: so not create a new CG but continue the work within the
>    IG?
>
>    mark: yes
>    ... might need a bit different mechanism but would continue our
>    work
>    ... ATSC 3.0 as mentioned
>    ... MSE/EME updates and potential implementations
>
>    yosuke: talked with NHK
>    ... and they've issued issues on MSE/EME
>
>    mark: Timed Text WG update
>    ... Nigel to email IG
>    ... takeaways from digital marketing ws
>
>    yosuke: will do
>
>    mark: updates from second screen wg
>    ... IG review
>    ... test runner for TV
>    ... Tomo-Digi to send list
>    ... Multi Device Timing CG
>    ... Francois to email IG
>    ... Cloud Browser APIs
>    ... create a TF
>    ... that's all from the f2f at TPAC
>
>    <Karen> W3C at suite #310 at CES :)
>
>    [ adjourned ]
>
> Summary of Action Items
>
> Summary of Resolutions
>
>    [End of minutes]
>      __________________________________________________________
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> --
> Kaz Ashimura, W3C Staff Contact for Auto, WoT, TV, MMI and Geo
> Tel: +81 3 3516 2504
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Kaz Ashimura, W3C Staff Contact for Auto, WoT, TV, MMI and Geo
Tel: +81 3 3516 2504