[api] minutes - 2 Apr. 2014

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 http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-webtv-minutes.html

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Thanks,

Daniel

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                     Web and TV IG - Media APIs TF

02 Apr 2014

   [2]Agenda

      [2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2014Apr/0000.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-webtv-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz, Daniel, Giri, Alexander, Wook, Bin

   Regrets
          Mark

   Chair
          Bin

   Scribe
          Daniel

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Review action item and issues
         2. [6]Media APIs requirements
         3. [7]2nd iteration of use-cases/requirements
         4. [8]Possible "Tuner API" CG
     * [9]Summary of Action Items
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   <aldafu> aldafu=alex

   <Bin_Hu> Hi, sorry I am late

   <kaz> Agenda:
   [10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2014A
   pr/0000.html

     [10]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2014Apr/0000.html

   <scribe> Scribe: Daniel

   <scribe> scribenick: ddavis

Review action item and issues

   Kaz: There's been a problem with the tracker (access is
   blocked). The sysadmins are looking into it but it's not fixed
   yet.

   <kaz> [11]Feb. 19 minutes

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2014/02/19-webtv-minutes.html

   kaz: We can try to look at the action items recorded in the Feb
   19 call minutes.

   Bin_Hu: We can close issue 187
   ... Next is issue 189 - accessibility guidelines. This is also
   closed as I added a general requirement

   kaz: Daniel and I had actions to create wiki pages.
   ... Mine was 184 and Daniel's was 185

   <aldafu> [12]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/actions/open

     [12] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/actions/open

   aldafu: I can see the action items.

   ddavis: It's visible if you log out (or open in another
   browser)

   <kaz> [ interesting situation... ]

   Bin_Hu: Issue 182: Discuss with jc, bin about the details of
   how to create the cg

   kaz: We discussed this and we can go ahead by proposing a new
   community group (CG)
   ... The question is who would be the chair and what would be
   the name of the group

   Bin_Hu: Can we close it?

   <kaz> close action 182

   <kaz> close action-182

   <trackbot> Error closing: could not connect to Tracker. Please
   mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what happened.

   <kaz> [ we'll close action 182, 184, 185, 187, 189 later ]

   Bin_Hu: Outstanding issues are 186 and 188 which are assigned
   to Giuseppe (not here) so we'll leave these open.
   ... So the wiki page Kaz created is just a place holder? No
   input or use cases yet?

   <kaz> [13]new idea wiki

     [13] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/New_Ideas

   kaz: right. I thought we could add one topic - audio
   fingerprinting - which was discussed on the mailing list a
   while ago.
   ... The page itself is a placeholder and I've added a template.

   Bin_Hu: Is this a standalone page?

   kaz: It's linked from the main page.
   ... If you prefer, I can link to it from the Media TF page.

   [14]https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Tuner_API

     [14] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Tuner_API

   ddavis: This page is linked to from the Media APIs TF page.

   Bin_Hu: Let's leave it there for now.

Media APIs requirements

   Bin_Hu: Next is to look at and approve the gap analysis note.
   ... I asked Giuseppe to create a page which he has done.

   <kaz> [15]Media API requirements

     [15] http://webandtv.github.io/mediatf-notes/mediareq.html

   Bin_Hu: We haven't seen any comments on the mailing list so can
   we approve this or do we need more time?

   ddavis: We did have some feedback a while ago, I think?

   kaz: Maybe we can record our approval in this call and the see
   what the remaining people think through mail.

   Bin_Hu: Yes, if we approve it then allow another one or two
   weeks to see if there are further comments by mail.

   ddavis: +1

   Bin_Hu: So I'll write a mail to see what people on the mailing
   list think.

   ddavis: Any comments about this note?

   RESOLUTION: "Requirements from the Media API TF" note approved
   by meeting attendees.

   Bin_Hu: So I think we've finished the administrative bits.

2nd iteration of use-cases/requirements

   Bin_Hu: In the coming schedule we have the end of this month
   (April) as the last chance to submit a use-case.
   ... We have no use-cases so I wonder if the schedule is too
   tight.
   ... Maybe we can adjust the date from end of April to end of
   May.
   ... Then we'll have another two conference calls before the end
   of June to finalise the list.

   ddavis: Maybe we can make it clearer to all people in the TV IG
   that we're looking for more use cases.

   Bin_Hu: Yes, the chairs told me they want to make the Media API
   calls open to more people in the group.
   ... So we can give more time and higher quality use cases.

   ddavis: It might be good to also clarify how to submit use
   cases (e.g. by email, through a web form, etc.)

   Bin_Hu: Ideally people should use the template that Kaz has
   made.

   [16]https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/New_Ideas

     [16] https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/New_Ideas

   Bin_Hu: But if it's just a one-liner then we can add it for
   consideration in the conference call.
   ... We can then decide whether to write a more detailed
   description of the use case or if it's out of scope.

   <scribe> ACTION: Bin Hu to add information in the wiki about
   submitting use cases [recorded in
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-webtv-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-190 - Hu to add information in the
   wiki about submitting use cases [on Bin Hu - due 2014-04-09].

   <scribe> ACTION: Bin Hu to send mail about submitting a new use
   case [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-webtv-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to
   Tracker. Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what
   happened.

   <aldafu> i can

   Bin_Hu: So we can accept use cases in two formats
   ... And I'll change the deadline from end of April to end of
   May

Possible "Tuner API" CG

   Bin_Hu: How many people do you need for a Community Group, Kaz?

   kaz: 5
   ... Theoretically you don't need a detailed charter but it's
   better to have a good description.

   aldafu: Can we see how many companies are interested already?

   Bin_Hu: It depends on the level of support.
   ... AT&T and Opera seem to be interested. Maybe Qualcomm and
   ETRI as well.

   gmandyam: Qualcomm Innovation Center would be interested in
   this. One concern is that whatever comes out of this group
   could be too late to make it into tech such as HbbTV.
   ... Can we get some commitment from the other SDOs to support
   the output of this CG?

   kaz: So we need a WG instead at some point?

   gmandyam: Yes, but you don't have a lot of time.
   ... HbbTV, for example, have progressed well with their own
   spec.

   Bin_Hu: We need to move quickly if we want it to be adopted.

   aldafu: As I understand it, the HbbTV spec is based on the OIPF
   spec, right?

   gmandyam: Yes, but it also leverages some tech from W3C.
   ... But the Tuner API is more specific so they may not be
   expecting much from W3C.

   aldafu: Mozilla also has an interest to bring Firefox OS to TV
   so they would need something like this.

   <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to suggest we ask HbbTV guys to join
   the CG

   kaz: I think we should invite HbbTV guys and other SDOs to the
   community group. It doesn't require W3C membership, by the way.

   Bin_Hu: That's a good idea.
   ... Who would be able to contact the HbbTV participants?

   aldafu: I can ask a colleague who's involved with this.

   kaz: So you could start with Louay and Stephan. We could also
   ask Jon Piesing.

   ddavis: For the record, they're already aware of our interest
   in this as it was discussed in the TV workshop.

   Bin_Hu: From our perspective, which company is willing to drive
   this?
   ... Or should we wait until the next call when we have a wider
   group of people involved?

   ddavis: We could send a mail quickly asking for people who are
   willing to drive it and then see if there are others in the
   next call when we can decide.

   <scribe> ACTION: Bin Hu to send mail to TV IG asking for
   volunteers to drive the "Tuner API" initiative. [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-webtv-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-191 - Hu to send mail to tv ig asking
   for volunteers to drive the "tuner api" initiative. [on Bin Hu
   - due 2014-04-09].

   ddavis: We should make it clear that "Tuner API" is just a
   placeholder name - not decided yet.

   Bin_Hu: I think there are three issues: Name, Scope, Chair

   aldafu: Let me add some name ideas: TV Control API, TV Channel
   API, Channel Control API
   ... I agree, Tuner API doesn't really make sense

   ddavis: Some people may not like having "TV" in the name, so
   that it's for the wider web and not TV specifically.

   Bin_Hu: Maybe "Channel Control API" is a more logical concept.

   kaz: Also "Media Selection" is possible

   Bin_Hu: Anything else to add?

   (silence)

   Bin_Hu: OK, we're done for today, ahead of schedule.
   ... The next meeting could be at a wider level for more
   participation hopefully.
   ... Thank you for your help and support. See you next time.

   <kaz> [ adjourned ]

   <scribe> ACTION: Bin Hu to send mail about submitting a new use
   case [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-webtv-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to
   Tracker. Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what
   happened.

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Bin Hu to add information in the wiki about
   submitting use cases [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-webtv-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: Bin Hu to send mail about submitting a new use
   case [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-webtv-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Bin Hu to send mail about submitting a new use
   case [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-webtv-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Bin Hu to send mail to TV IG asking for
   volunteers to drive the "Tuner API" initiative. [recorded in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-webtv-minutes.html#action03]

   [End of minutes]
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