- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 01:04:44 +0900
- To: public-web-and-tv@w3.org
available at: http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-webtv-minutes.html also as text below. Thanks a lot for taking minutes, Kevin! Kazuyuki --- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Media Pipeline Task Force Teleconference 10 May 2012 [2]Agenda [2] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/Agenda_Telco_10th_May_2012 See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/05/10-webtv-irc Attendees Present clarke, kaz, bryan, bob, joe, kevin, Juhani, eric, john, ??P32, 443-030-40xxxx, 425-214-xxxx, 858-735-xxxx, 617-761-xxxx, 415-832-xxxx, 617-761-xxxx, ??P58, 206-218-xxxx, 425-882-xxxx, 617-761-xxxx Regrets Chair Clarke Scribe kstreeter, kaz Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]face to face last week 2. [6]WebPerf 3. [7]bug tracking 4. [8]requirements documents * [9]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ <nisc> this passcode is not valid ? :( <inserted> scribenick: kstreeter face to face last week Bob: Summary of last week: aaron presented the media source proposal [mark?] presented the encrypted media proposal discussed the formation of a media task force it was decided to keep the work in the group discussion on whether to keep the two proposals together John: none of the acrimonious comments on the enc media proposal really came up in the f2f there is a transition happening between HTML5 and HTML next Aaron: there is a sense that the HTML5 ship has sailed, and there is an opp for cooperation moving forwad in the HTML WG s/fowad/forward/ Aaron: Paul Cotton indicated that he would moderate the calls regarding the media proposals John: Google presented a couple of good demos, are these available online? Aaron: yes, online will find a link WebPerf some of the metrics being discussed by webperf could be utilized by the media source elements this group should familiarize themselves; we will discuss next week bug tracking many messages this week, means work is progressing bug11492 no new bugs requirements documents <Clarke> ABR Requirements: [10]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/mpreq/MPTF-ADB-Req uirements.html [10] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/mpreq/MPTF-ADB-Requirements.html updated the terminology group should review the terminology changes as well as the reqs added use cases reviewing use case 5.1 the terminology for ABR "media" or ABR "system" is ill-defined, we could clarify this reviewing use case 5.2 U2 Kevin: could add the need to handle trick modes across time discontinuities Joe: content protection can also impact trick modes, we should call that out as well Aaron: what are the expectations around consistency between different systems? Clarke: the primary thing is that from a user perspective dealing with trick modes in ABR should be similar to that of non-ABR content Aaron: some adaptive systems might handle trick modes slightly differently, for example switch to lower bitrate Bob: even in non-adaptive there are often differences on how different media handle trick play ... different user agents will often do trick modes differently to enhance user experience Kevin: perhaps we could define this more as a req for the mechanisms to initiate trick plays, rather than the end experience Bob: could express this in terms of the media element attributes that manage trick modes ... this could be more succinct reviewing use case 5.3 U3. Search Adaptive Bit Rate Content Aaron: we should use "seek" rather than "search" <inserted> scribenick: kaz Clarke: U5. Continuous Adaptive Bit Rate Content ... time reference? bob: who made that comment? kstreeter: kevin from Adobe bob: we had some discussion before ... are you aware how systems today handle that? ... what should for adaptive streaming? kstreeter: not aware ... I imagine system like Tivo should handle this bob: ok <nisc> kaz, who is here <nisc> kaz, who is here? <nisc> er <nisc> sorry kaz ;-) bob: granularity of time Clarke: I guess we could leave it in the requirements, and reconsider it later ... any other comments for the UC 5? (nothing) <inserted> scribenick: kstreeter reviewing use case 5.6 U6. Timed Tracks and Adaptive Bit Rate Content Clarke: this is related to the time base requirements DASH supports this in the MPD Bob: this might boil down to that the implementation must support timed text tracks if present Aaron: we are going to support inline text tracks Kevin: how would this work with external caption file? Aaron: yes, you would just use the existing track mechanism ... since this is built on existing HTML5, i don't think we need to call this out specifically as a requirement Clarke: given the above requirements on timeline, this use case might not be required Aaron: this req does allow a timed text track to be merged into content that did not already have one ... even if this is redundant timed text is important it is worth leaving in next week we will talk about the enc content doc Aaron: link points to old document <Clarke> Thanks for scribing, Kevin <kaz> [ adjourned ] Summary of Action Items [End of minutes]
Received on Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:06:27 UTC