- From: Scott Wilson <scott.bradley.wilson@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:12:20 +0000
- To: "Giuseppe Pascale" <giuseppep@opera.com>
- Cc: public-web-and-tv@w3.org
It may be worth noting that many Blu-Ray players are also capable of deploying installed web apps , e.g. Panasonic DMP-BDT110, Sony BD-BX18. So perhaps the definition of "STB" needs to be slightly broader, or these kinds of players added to the range of example devices. On 20 Jan 2012, at 12:20, Giuseppe Pascale wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:42:46 +0100, Scott Wilson <scott.bradley.wilson@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 19 Jan 2012, at 18:23, Giuseppe Pascale wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> given the interest in working on the TV profile as announced in [1], is probably good to start a new TF in charge of it. >>> >>> I'll work in the following days to create a wiki page for such new TF. >>> If someone is willing to chair this new TF, please let me know. >>> About phone calls, the idea was to start with bi-weekly calls, let me know if there are any objections to this. >>> >>> Finally, feedbacks on the profile document (that meanwhile got some more text) are welcome >>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/tvprofile/tv.html >>> >>> The document contains some open question you may want to share your opinion on. >>> Other open question where contribution are welcome are: >>> >>> - which technologies are fundamental for TV deployments and should be included in the profile? >> >> I think there needs to be a section on web application packaging and metadata referencing W3C Widgets: Packaging and Configuration [1]; an issue identified in several submissions to the Future of Offline Web Applications meeting was competing non-interoperable packaging formats affecting TV/STB web app deployment. Some vendors are already using similar packaging formats (e.g Samsung's smart TV profile); there is also work taking place in the Webinos[2] project on extending W3C Widgets for TV applications. >> > > Good suggestion. W3C widgets is now W3C Recommendation and is referenced by several TV specs, for example OIPF specs. > > I added a section about the application model and about client side applications. > http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/tvprofile/tv.html#client-side-applications > > For now I only added a reference to the packaging spec, but we need to consider other specs of the widgets family > >>> - how do we address evaluation of performances? >>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/tvprofile/tv.html#performances >>> - what kind of input methods should be considered? >>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/tvprofile/tv.html#input-methods >> >> I think traditional Remote Control input methods are a basic requirement for TV-based apps, > > There are two issues here: > - remote controls are evolving and devices addressed by this specification are not only TV sets/STB. So we need to consider the option that a "traditional" remote control is not available. > - historically different specifications have used slightly different approaches to handling of rc inputs. > When those specs were written, DOM didn't have specific support for RC control input. > > Now there is some text in the DOM3 spec > http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/ > > but AFAIK nobody has implemented it yet. We should discuss how to proceed in this area, if deprecate old approaches in favour of the DOM3 approach or if we should talk to the group working on the DOM3 document and propose an alternative approach. > >> as are virtual keyboards (most TV interfaces use both in combination). > not sure >> Further down the line, there is Kinect-type camera input coming from Samsung. >> > What would be needed to be standardized here? I expect that for general purpose application these "devices" will just emulate traditional remote. > I mean, even if such device recognize a "gestures" to do play/pause/stop such gestures will probably be mapped on "equivalent" RC keys. > > Of course more complex use cases (gaming) may require something more, but this is outside the scope of this profile I believe; could be an interesting topic for the web events WG. > > /g > >>> >>> Feel free to share your opinion but also to point to existing work in these areas. >>> >>> /g >>> >>> -- >>> Giuseppe Pascale >>> TV & Connected Devices >>> Opera Software >>> >> >> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/ >> [2] http://dev.webinos.org/specifications/draft/tv.html > > > -- > Giuseppe Pascale > TV & Connected Devices > Opera Software
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