Re: [profile] Profile spec title

On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Yosuke Funahashi wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:
>> On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:07:12 +0100, Vickers, Mark <Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The HTML5 spec itself references CSS and other W3C specs, so using the term "HTML5" doesn't exclude other W3C specs. The reason I suggested the title
>>> 	"HTML5 Video Services Profile"
>>> is because it underlines that HTML5 is the central spec. Are others looking for a spec that doesn't center on HTML5? If so, that's a more important issue than the title.
>>> 
>> 
>> From my point of view the question is not if the spec should or should not be centered on HTML5 (I think is a fact that IS centered on html5 and I doubt someone disagree).
>> The question is if it needs to be part of the title.
>> 
>>> The even more important issue in the title is changing "TV" to "video services". Using "TV Profile" strongly implies it's a profile only for TV devices. "Video Service Profile" or "Profile for Video Services" makes clear the profile describes what is needed for video services on any device.
>>> 
>> 
>> I know that for some people/communities the term TV can be confusing.
>> On the other end I notice that often also web based "video services" tend to use a TV-related terminology, e.g. they are often called (or call themselves) "web TVs". Another example is "YouTube".
>> 
>> 
>> Having read all the comments so far I still think the best compromise between different opinions is
>> 
>> "Web and TV profile"
>> Guidelines for integration of interactive video services in a browser-based environment
> 
> +1
> 
>> possible variation
>> 
>> "WebTV profile"
>> Guidelines for integration of interactive video services in a browser-based environment
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> 'WebTV' was a registered trademark of Microsoft corp.
> I'm now sure whether MS has waived it or not.

s/now/not/

Yosuke

> Yosuke
> 
> 
>> /g
>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> mav
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Jan Lindquist wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> The profile is not only about HTML5 but other W3c standards so it would be misleading to have HTML5 in the title. In the spirit of the IG how about "web and TV profile". The name of the profile is not as critical as knowing the breadth of the areas it should cover. This profile may live for a while and it in the context of the industry attempt to influence the work in W3C with a clear list of specs that are being used and how they may be used. It will become a reference point by other standard groups. By using the same name as the IG it can help see the relationship.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> JanL
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Vickers, Mark [mailto:Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com]
>>>>> Sent: den 7 februari 2012 15:24
>>>>> To: Giuseppe Pascale
>>>>> Cc: public-web-and-tv@w3.org WG
>>>>> Subject: Re: [profile] Profile spec title
>>>>> 
>>>>> How about "HTML5 Video Services Profile"?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:26:40 +0100, Vickers, Mark
>>>>> <Mark_Vickers@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 5. Title: The goal for me is a profile of HTML5 for video
>>>>> services. There are two differences with "Web&TV Profile".
>>>>>>> - I want to include HTML5 in the title because this is
>>>>> HTML5-related
>>>>>>> and HTM5-centric
>>>>>>> - I don't like including "TV". This continues to cause
>>>>> confusion. It is clearer to describe an HTML5 profile for
>>>>> video services.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't have strong opinions on the title but I would note
>>>>> the following:
>>>>>> - A title should be short ( the subtitle explains a bit
>>>>> more what we are doing).
>>>>>> - I've tried to use the word "TV services" in the subtitle that is
>>>>>> hopefully a bit less confusing (or maybe not?). I have defined this
>>>>>> term as
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "For the purposes of this document a TV service is a
>>>>> commercial video service that may include elements of
>>>>> interactivity and that provides a coherent user experience.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - while this profile is html5 based this is not only about
>>>>> html5. I'm not against highlighting the HTML5 centric
>>>>> approach but I wouldn't call this "an html5 profile".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So in short: I'm fine with your comments but I cannot come
>>>>> up with a better title/subtitle. Suggestions are welcome.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /g
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> See you on the call.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> mav
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One note: the zakim bridge is overbooked.
>>>>>>>> So just in case we see that people have problem dialing
>>>>> in (in such
>>>>>>>> case please login on IRC and let us know) I set-up this
>>>>> Opera bridge.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> NOTE: ONLY TO BE USED IF WE SEE THAT ZAKIM DOESN'T WORK
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Phone bridge details:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Conference ID:            33909
>>>>>>>> Start Date and Time:      Monday 06.02.2012 17:00:00 CET/CEST
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bridge Numbers:
>>>>>>>> Norway                           +47 23 69 26 03
>>>>>>>> USA                                +1 800 201 4229 (Toll-Free)
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>>>>>>>> Poland (Warsaw)         	+48 22 262 0799
>>>>>>>> Japan                             +81 3 5435 8394
>>>>>>>> Russia				  +7 812 448 7876
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Conference Name:          tv profile
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Please contact SysAdmin at +47 23 69 33 60 for assistance.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> /g
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:06:15 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale
>>>>> <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here the call details for todays call
>>>>>>>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Telco)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Schedule: Monday, 16:00Z (=8:00 Pacific, 11:00 Eastern, 17:00
>>>>>>>>> Europe, 01:00 Korea/Japan)
>>>>>>>>> Phone: US: +1 617 761 6200 or SIP: zakim@voip.w3.org Conference
>>>>>>>>> Code: 26632 IRC channel: #webtv
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And here the Agenda for todays call:
>>>>>>>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Agenda_Telco_6/2/2012)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> * Review of Charter
>>>>>>>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Charter)
>>>>>>>>> * Call schedule
>>>>>>>>> * TF tools (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile)
>>>>>>>>> * Process
>>>>>>>>> * Initial feedbacks on the draft
>>>>>>>>> (http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/tvprofile/tv.html)
>>>>>>>>> * AOB
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> /g
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:00:59 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale
>>>>> <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> the poll [1] is now closed and the winner is...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Monday, February 6, 2012 4:00 PM - 5:00 PM UTC
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In this first call we will discuss the scope of the TV
>>>>> profile work, how do we want the group to be organized and
>>>>> timeline (if any).
>>>>>>>>>> If you have any other topic you want to add to the
>>>>> agenda let me know.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'll send around call details ASAP.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://doodle.com/h6rfnkrqyi3uinpi
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Giuseppe Pascale
>>>>>>>> TV & Connected Devices
>>>>>>>> Opera Software
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Giuseppe Pascale
>>>>>> TV & Connected Devices
>>>>>> Opera Software
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Giuseppe Pascale
>> TV & Connected Devices
>> Opera Software
>> 
> 
> --
> Yosuke Funahashi
> co-Chair, W3C Web and TV Interest Group
> Researcher, Keio University Research Institute at SFC
> Board Director, Tomo-Digi Corporation
> 

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Yosuke Funahashi
co-Chair, W3C Web and TV Interest Group
Researcher, Keio University Research Institute at SFC
Board Director, Tomo-Digi Corporation

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