Re: [tvprofile] First call of the TV profile TF

On 6 Feb 2012, at 16:26, Vickers, Mark wrote:

> Web&TV Folks:
> 
> I had a last-minte conflict and cannot attend the first call. Here's some comments on the document:
> 
> Overall: This is a great start, generally in the right direction. Thanks to Giuseppe for putting in so much effort here.
> 
> 1. Additional key design goal: Cross-device content. Our main W3C TV Profile goal is to be able to author content that can target across PC, mobile, TV and other devices. This means a few things are critical:
> - Define a base feature set that works across browsers on PC, mobile, TV and other devices.
> - Include mechanisms to make content work across these devices (e.g. devices may have only one of: remote control, keyboard or touch screen)
> 
> 2. Widgets: I don't support the TV Profile mandating ("shall support") W3C Widgets because widgets don't have sufficient cross-device/cross-browser support. The HTML5 Offline Web applications requirements are sufficient for our needs.

On the other hand, proprietary mechanisms for distributing web applications cause unnecessary barriers to interoperability which Widgets can help overcome. In the TV space, several smart TV platforms have already produced proprietary incompatible "zip with an XML manifest" specs.

As an example, in the mobile space PhoneGap Build uses W3C Widgets as its packaging format lingua franca on input, and then generates proprietary application wrappers for the target platforms.

hHowever wording that makes a distinction between requirements for packaged web applications for TV vs websites may help.

> 
> 3. CSS: I expect we'll need considerably more CSS specified. For example, we need to include a base requirement for all of CSS 2.1 before we can add individual CSS3 modules.
> 
> 4. Survey: I'm wondering if it would be useful to do a survey of non-W3C web extensions related to video services and try to collect those in a document. We could then review this and see which are covered by HTML5 and other W3C specifications and which are not.
> 
> 5. Title: The goal for me is a profile of HTML5 for video services. There are two differences with "Web&TV Profile".
> - I want to include HTML5 in the title because this is HTML5-related and HTM5-centric
> - I don't like including "TV". This continues to cause confusion. It is clearer to describe an HTML5 profile for video services.
> 
> See you on the call.
> 
> Thanks,
> mav
> 
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Giuseppe Pascale wrote:
> 
>> One note: the zakim bridge is overbooked.
>> So just in case we see that people have problem dialing in (in such case please login on IRC and let us know)
>> I set-up this Opera bridge.
>> 
>> NOTE: ONLY TO BE USED IF WE SEE THAT ZAKIM DOESN'T WORK
>> 
>> Phone bridge details:
>> 
>> Conference ID:            33909
>> Start Date and Time:      Monday 06.02.2012 17:00:00 CET/CEST
>> 
>> Bridge Numbers:
>> Norway                           +47 23 69 26 03
>> USA                                +1 800 201 4229 (Toll-Free)
>> Poland (Wroclaw)	        +48 71 719 6099
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>> 
>> Conference Name:          tv profile
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> Please contact SysAdmin at +47 23 69 33 60 for assistance.
>> 
>> /g
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:06:15 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here the call details for todays call
>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Telco)
>>> 
>>> Schedule: Monday, 16:00Z (=8:00 Pacific, 11:00 Eastern, 17:00 Europe, 01:00 Korea/Japan)
>>> Phone: US: +1 617 761 6200 or SIP: zakim@voip.w3.org
>>> Conference Code: 26632
>>> IRC channel: #webtv
>>> 
>>> And here the Agenda for todays call:
>>> (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Agenda_Telco_6/2/2012)
>>> 
>>> * Review of Charter (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile/Charter)
>>> * Call schedule
>>> * TF tools (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Profile)
>>> * Process
>>> * Initial feedbacks on the draft (http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webtv/raw-file/tip/tvprofile/tv.html)
>>> * AOB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> /g
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:00:59 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> the poll [1] is now closed and the winner is...
>>>> 
>>>> Monday, February 6, 2012 4:00 PM - 5:00 PM UTC
>>>> 
>>>> In this first call we will discuss the scope of the TV profile work, how do we want the group to be organized and timeline (if any).
>>>> If you have any other topic you want to add to the agenda let me know.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll send around call details ASAP.
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://doodle.com/h6rfnkrqyi3uinpi
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Giuseppe Pascale
>> TV & Connected Devices
>> Opera Software
>> 
> 
>

Received on Monday, 6 February 2012 19:44:38 UTC