- From: Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.org>
- Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:35:47 +0100
- To: Rob Glidden <rob.glidden@sbcglobal.net>
- Cc: Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>, "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" <abegen@cisco.com>, Gerard Fernando <gerardmxf@yahoo.co.uk>, "juhani.huttunen@nokia.com" <juhani.huttunen@nokia.com>, "hj08.lee@lge.com" <hj08.lee@lge.com>, "public-web-and-tv@w3.org" <public-web-and-tv@w3.org>
Well this is a W3C mailing list, do the ISO rules apply there too ? I'm not sure if I fall in the category participant or non-participant. Also I assume patents should be discussed on the MPEG side of things ? Given what is "presented" to W3C should be royalty free anyway. I'm new to all this... Steve On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Rob Glidden <rob.glidden@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ISO disclosure obligations are clearly documented at > http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/sc29/29w7proc.htm. Short incomplete summary: > proposers, preparers and liaisons "shall", participants "should", > non-participants "may", multiple other shalls and shall nots. > > Slickly-worded AFAIKs to the contrary, DASH as-is has multiple > patent-disclosed normative references (and outstanding patent call). > > For one, the UK Intellectual Property Office offers a freedom-to-operate > search service, but there are many private services. > > "[G]ood reasons to hope for an outcome" and "requirements/recommendations > should be reasonable and also provide a basis for discussion/negotiation and > not require a yes/no answer" look like code for a belief that W3C should > bend its royalty-free policy. I disagree. > > Rob > > On 3/19/2011 2:54 AM, Steve Lhomme wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Mark Watson<watsonm@netflix.com> wrote: >>> >>> There are no known patents AFAIK. If someone turns up with a solid patent >>> and insists they deserve royalties for it, then I've no doubt it will be >>> profiled out. But we are nowhere close to that yet and it's unlikely >>> anyway >>> for the reasons I've described. We should not assume we are in that >>> situation unless and until we actually get there, that is all. >>> ...Mark >> >> If I find such a patent, should I disclose it ? And even if there is >> none known as of today, what is the guarantee there won't be one >> published tomorrow ? In which case the patent holder may well seek >> retribution from a booming business. Among the companies/organisations >> there will be those who can afford to pay anyway, and those who can't >> and will have to abandon the technology and still being threatened for >> having used it in the past, and leave the market to those who can >> afford. >> >> What are the guarantees that this cannot happen ? Is the MPEG, 3GPP >> and/or W3C responsible for doing a deep patent search to make sure it >> can be declared royalty free ? >> >> Side Note: shouldn't it be a service provided by patent offices anyway ? >> > > -- Steve Lhomme Matroska association Chairman
Received on Saturday, 19 March 2011 17:36:21 UTC