- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 03:07:14 +0900
- To: public-web-and-tv@w3.org
available at:
http://www.w3.org/2011/07/19-webtv-minutes.html
also as text below.
The next call will be July 26.
Thanks,
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Home Networking Task Force call
19 Jul 2011
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2011Jul/0036.html
Attendees
Present
Russell, davidmays, Igarashi, Jan, kaz, Joseph_Scheuhammer,
Richard_Bardini, MattH, aizu, Yosuke, Narm
Regrets
Giuseppe, Francois
Chair
Kaz
Scribe
kaz
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]HNTF deadline
2. [5]HTML5 review
3. [6]remaining issues
* [7]Summary of Action Items
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HNTF deadline
kaz: we'll extend the charter period by one month
all: agree
RESOLUTION: HNTF will extend the charter period until the end of
August
HTML5 review
kaz: is anybody interested in reviewing HTML5 spec from Home
Networking viewpoint?
igarashi: no particular idea on HTML5
<yosuke> [FYI: I've been reviewing the spec with some broadcasters
from broadcasters' point of view.]
kaz: just reviewing part of the spec is fine
... because the spec is huge
matt: no specific interest
russell: can commit
... HTML5 has number of options
kaz: great
<davidmays> there is a lot of noise on the line
<davidmays> it is very difficult to understand
kaz: please send a message to the IG list on your interested
section, etc.
<davidmays> yes the noise is gone
<MattH> yes
kaz: yosuke, could you please also make contribution?
yosuke: ok
<r> Kaz - I dont understand - is this the html5 item>???
<r> no - I indicated we would *not* be interested!!
<yosuke> [I'd like to mention that my/our review on HTML5 spec will
be mainly from broadcasters' point of view, and it may not be in
line with HNTF's point of view.]
yosuke, ok
RESOLUTION: Yosuke is interested in HTML5 review. Note that his
review will be not from HNTF viewpoint but from broadcasters'
viewpoint
remaining issues
kaz: first one is Igarashi's issue-24
->
[8]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Home_Network_TF_Discussion
s/LocalLink issue-24
[8] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Home_Network_TF_Discussions/LocalLink
issue-24?
<trackbot> ISSUE-24 -- Local Link of web applications -- raised
<trackbot> [9]http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/issues/24
[9] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/issues/24
russell: similar to the one we submitted
kaz: which one?
russell: network player
kaz: the one derived from 17?
russell: yes
kaz: igarashi, what do you think?
igarashi: we may discuss what the difference is
... most use cases are similar
... not only 17 but also 15 etc.
... use cases on generic use cases
... so I'd suggest we add type of use cases first, and then talk
about the difference between use cases
... ISSUE-14 is very generic
... and Francois asked about the difference between 14 and 24
<r> This is objectionable in Issue 24 - Type of use case:
Application/service agnostic APIs
kaz: igarashi needs to modify that term to "generic"
<r> Should be no mention - just requirements
<r> There are generic and specific solutions deployed
<r> W3C needs to address both
<r> Issue 17 does this already
<r> Issue 23 discusses support for specific deployed implementations
kaz: russell, you're suggesting ISSUE-24 should also mention both
the generic APIS and application-specific APIs?
<r> Use cases should describe requirements absent implementation
russell: yes
igarashi: this is not solution discussion, but requirements
discussion
<r> We think a Requirement to support Generic APIs is problematic
<r> Generic APIs defeat interoperability!
<r> The use case should specifically discuss Generic APIs and
explain their impact on interoperability
<r> This is what ISSUE-24 should do
<r> Then what is the use-case for Issue-24?
igarashi: what we should do first is clarify use cases
<r> How is it different from ISSUE-17?
<r> I think its a valid approach - The use case should clearly state
the requirement
<r> For generic API support
<r> Vs standardized API support
<r> Both seem to be valid approaches?
<r> Maybe we should have end-user use-cases and implementation
use-cases
kaz: maybe we could ask igarashi to provide some example of generic
APIs?
igarashi: Opera's proposal is one of the possible generic APIs
kaz: russell, did you by chance see the generic APIs proposal by
Opera (Rich)?
russell: had some private discussion with him
<r> agree with you comment that discussion is out of scope for HNTF
russell: think Opera's proposal is different from ISSUE-24...
igarashi: that is 80% similar to my proposed use case
... they identify services
russell: Opera's target is not generic API but based on existing
solutions
... it has binding to existing solutions like JSON
igarashi: that (how to solve use case requirements) is a different
level from use cases discussion itself
... what do you want to clarify?
russell: need to identify which home network technology should be
used
kaz: are you suggesting each use case should mention which existing
technology should be used?
russell: that should be guidance to the other groups
... would be helpful for the discussion in the other WGs
kaz: we should concentrate on clarifying use cases and requirements
for this HNTF charter period, and then talk about expectation for
binding to existing standards, e.g., UPnP, DLNA.
russell: agree
... and at later stage, we need to consider eco-system specific use
cases, etc.
... is it possible to add eco-system specific use cases category to
the requirements document
kaz: we need to talk with Giuseppe as well, but should be ok
... could you please add some note or description to your use case
about that point (=eco-system specific, etc.)
russell: e.g., ISSUE-23
... also would like to provide some proposal for requirements
document construction
kaz: great
[ adjourned ]
Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
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