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RE: HTML5 Last Call May 2011 & DASH/Adaptive Streaming

From: Ali C. Begen (abegen) <abegen@cisco.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:25:06 -0800
Message-ID: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D540E57B115@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com>
To: "Glenn Adams" <glenn@skynav.com>
Cc: "Jean-Claude Dufourd" <jean-claude.dufourd@telecom-paristech.fr>, "Richard Maunder (rmaunder)" <rmaunder@cisco.com>, <public-web-and-tv@w3.org>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn Adams [mailto:glenn@skynav.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 1:20 PM
> To: Ali C. Begen (abegen)
> Cc: Jean-Claude Dufourd; Richard Maunder (rmaunder); public-web-and-tv@w3.org
> Subject: Re: HTML5 Last Call May 2011 & DASH/Adaptive Streaming
> 
> I would not argue with your premise, but it is out of the question I think whether such a baseline would be included in HTML5.
> The best you might hope for (IMO) is an informative reference and an example usage shown in the spec text. But even that is
> unlikely to be attractive to the HTML5 editor.

I am personally very fine even with an informative section. My ultimate goal is to get everybody on the same page and enable convergence in this domain.

-acbegen
 
> G.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Ali C. Begen (abegen) <abegen@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 	I see a certain value for offering a baseline adaptive streaming client as part of the html5 standard. At the end, if all
> the vendors will eventually converge to what DASH spec offers, a baseline client would only accelerate this convergence. A
> common client across different browsers and platforms will make life easier for many of us.
> 
> 	As long as the wg also includes provisions for parameterization of the baseline client through an API (scripting or
> something else), one can still customize the behavior of the player. Making all this codec independent is of course highly
> desirable.
> 
> 	-acbegen
> 
> 
> 	> -----Original Message-----
> 	> From: public-web-and-tv-request@w3.org [mailto:public-web-and-tv-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Claude
> Dufourd
> 	> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:57 PM
> 	> To: Glenn Adams
> 	> Cc: Richard Maunder (rmaunder); public-web-and-tv@w3.org
> 	> Subject: Re: HTML5 Last Call May 2011 & DASH/Adaptive Streaming
> 	>
> 	> There is no question of including DASH technology in HTML5, just means to control DASHed media.
> 	> What some participants of the workshop defended was the inclusion of a way to deal, within HTML5, with various
> options
> 	> offered by DASH, such as choice of bit-rate, audio, subtitles, as well as support for trick modes (a.k.a. VCR-like
> controls).
> 	> One possible solution is to add element/attribute syntax around the video object to allow that kind of control.
> Another
> 	> solution is to add script APIs.
> 	> Best regards
> 	> JC
> 	>
> 	> On 15/2/11 18:38 , Glenn Adams wrote:
> 	>
> 	>       Even if it were done today, I doubt very much they would reference it from the HTML5 spec. There just isn't a
> strong
> 	> reason to do so. Besides, they have chosen a technology neutral position with respect to both stream media formats
> and
> 	> transports.
> 	>
> 	>       Glenn Adams
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>       On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Richard Maunder <rmaunder@cisco.com> wrote:
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>               Hi,
> 	>
> 	>               Interesting session in Berlin last week, thanks to all involved.
> 	>
> 	>               While we wait from the IG process & tools to form, I was interested in the implications of the HTML5 Last
> Call
> 	> for May, especially the window for getting any DASH baseline or other adaptive streaming requirement into the
> spec:
> 	>
> 	>               http://www.w3.org/2011/02/htmlwg-pr.html

> 	>
> 	>               I'm not very familiar with the W3C processes, but my reading of them suggests it would be unlikely in this
> 	> round if not in the spec by May?
> 	>
> 	>               Any thoughts on this?
> 	>
> 	>               Best wishes
> 	>
> 	>               Richard
> 	>
> 	>               Legal boilerplate follows.....
> 	>               Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of
> Cisco.
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
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