RE: HTML5 Last Call May 2011 & DASH/Adaptive Streaming



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn Adams [mailto:glenn@skynav.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 1:20 PM
> To: Ali C. Begen (abegen)
> Cc: Jean-Claude Dufourd; Richard Maunder (rmaunder); public-web-and-tv@w3.org
> Subject: Re: HTML5 Last Call May 2011 & DASH/Adaptive Streaming
> 
> I would not argue with your premise, but it is out of the question I think whether such a baseline would be included in HTML5.
> The best you might hope for (IMO) is an informative reference and an example usage shown in the spec text. But even that is
> unlikely to be attractive to the HTML5 editor.

I am personally very fine even with an informative section. My ultimate goal is to get everybody on the same page and enable convergence in this domain.

-acbegen
 
> G.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Ali C. Begen (abegen) <abegen@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>  I see a certain value for offering a baseline adaptive streaming client as part of the html5 standard. At the end, if all
> the vendors will eventually converge to what DASH spec offers, a baseline client would only accelerate this convergence. A
> common client across different browsers and platforms will make life easier for many of us.
> 
>  As long as the wg also includes provisions for parameterization of the baseline client through an API (scripting or
> something else), one can still customize the behavior of the player. Making all this codec independent is of course highly
> desirable.
> 
>  -acbegen
> 
> 
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: public-web-and-tv-request@w3.org [mailto:public-web-and-tv-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Claude
> Dufourd
>  > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:57 PM
>  > To: Glenn Adams
>  > Cc: Richard Maunder (rmaunder); public-web-and-tv@w3.org
>  > Subject: Re: HTML5 Last Call May 2011 & DASH/Adaptive Streaming
>  >
>  > There is no question of including DASH technology in HTML5, just means to control DASHed media.
>  > What some participants of the workshop defended was the inclusion of a way to deal, within HTML5, with various
> options
>  > offered by DASH, such as choice of bit-rate, audio, subtitles, as well as support for trick modes (a.k.a. VCR-like
> controls).
>  > One possible solution is to add element/attribute syntax around the video object to allow that kind of control.
> Another
>  > solution is to add script APIs.
>  > Best regards
>  > JC
>  >
>  > On 15/2/11 18:38 , Glenn Adams wrote:
>  >
>  >       Even if it were done today, I doubt very much they would reference it from the HTML5 spec. There just isn't a
> strong
>  > reason to do so. Besides, they have chosen a technology neutral position with respect to both stream media formats
> and
>  > transports.
>  >
>  >       Glenn Adams
>  >
>  >
>  >       On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Richard Maunder <rmaunder@cisco.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >               Hi,
>  >
>  >               Interesting session in Berlin last week, thanks to all involved.
>  >
>  >               While we wait from the IG process & tools to form, I was interested in the implications of the HTML5 Last
> Call
>  > for May, especially the window for getting any DASH baseline or other adaptive streaming requirement into the
> spec:
>  >
>  >               http://www.w3.org/2011/02/htmlwg-pr.html

>  >
>  >               I'm not very familiar with the W3C processes, but my reading of them suggests it would be unlikely in this
>  > round if not in the spec by May?
>  >
>  >               Any thoughts on this?
>  >
>  >               Best wishes
>  >
>  >               Richard
>  >
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