- From: Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com>
- Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:28:25 +0200
- To: "Russell Berkoff" <r.berkoff@sisa.samsung.com>, "Francois Daoust" <fd@w3.org>, "Giuseppe Pascale" <giuseppep@opera.com>
- Cc: public-web-and-tv@w3.org
Russell, all, I review your template together with contribution from some other people and updated the reference template, now available on the wiki On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:38:55 +0200, Giuseppe Pascale <giuseppep@opera.com> wrote: > Russell. thanks for your template > Francois, thanks for your overview of available tools. > > My view on this is when it comes to the HNTF work (this could be > extended to the all IG if people agree) is the following: > > We should be able to do a good job with the tools available, that is > mail, wiki and tracker. > In order to avoid confusion and things lost in the discussion, > I would propose to adopt a really simple process (copied also on the > wiki for reference [1]) > > > 1. Submitter sends a use case to public-web-and-tv@w3.org using the the > Use Cases Template > 2. The Moderator creates an issue to keep track of this use case, > linking the initial email to the issue > 3. Editor writes down the use case in the wiki and take editing > responsibilities for it. In general the Submitter will also be the > Editor but there could be exceptions. > 4. discussion happens, use case gets updated as necessary on the Wiki. > 5. The Moderator issues a short call for consensus ("anything else on > that topic?") > 6. The Moderator notes the outcome of the discussion in tracker and > closes the issue. > 7. At this point The Use Case/Proposal can be merged in the main > requirement document (or saved as a separate deliverable if this is the > case) > > Notes: > 1. This is just a proposal (feel free to comment on it); For HNTF > participants, I suggest to discuss this during our next call and discuss > if this is enough or if something more is needed. > 2. I'll reuse Russell template and make a "wiki" version of it. > > /g > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF > > On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:55:14 +0200, Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org> wrote: > >> Dear Russell, >> >> On 04/11/2011 09:16 AM, Russell Berkoff wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I noticed use-cases are begining to be considered. To help manage this >>> process I would encourage the IG to adopt a uniform _*use-case >>> submission template*_. >>> In addition it would be useful for the IG to provide a >>> document-management facility so that use-cases can be submitted, >>> tracked and archived. >>> The attached template is based on a (non-scientific) review of Use >>> Case templates used by various SDOs. >> >> Thanks for sharing the template. Tracking suggestions, issues and >> actions is certainly useful to ensure smooth progress of group's >> discussions. We do not use a document-management facility as such in >> W3C but there are a few tools that are available and that can help >> organize life in the group. >> >> In the end, the way tools will be used is up to chairs and task force >> moderators, so please consider the points below as possibilities. It's >> important that participants feel at ease with tools. >> >> >> Tools: >> >> 1. Emails >> ----- >> Emails remain one of the easiest tools to use for everyone and are >> heavily used in W3C. >> Emails sent to the mailing-list are archived and indexed: >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/ >> They can be searched for and pointed at to remind people of past >> discussions on a given topic. >> >> Emails may not look formal, but keep in mind culture at W3C is more >> oriented towards informal discussions within the group. Things get >> formal at W3C when decisions get taken and/or when contention appears. >> If a suggestion appears to be falling through the cracks, just raise it >> again to the chairs and staff contacts. Other SDOs may have much more >> formal submission processes, that's usually not the case in W3C. >> >> Templates may be used to increase readability, but please bear in mind >> that text should be used whenever possible (instead of email >> attachements) for indexation purposes. >> >> >> 2. Wiki >> ----- >> The group has a a wiki which can be edited by participants of the IG: >> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page >> >> A wiki allows participants to work together on a use case, a report, an >> agenda, etc and converge on a common view. Version history is preserved >> and it's easy to roll back on changes if there is disagreement about an >> update. That's the closest thing we have to a document-management >> facility. >> >> If participants feel they will be using non-textual documents such as >> diagrams a lot, it is possible to set up a CVS or a Mercurial >> repository, but that's usually more for source code than for use cases >> and these tools may not be easy accessible to everyone. >> >> >> 3. Tracker >> ----- >> Tracker helps track issues and actions on products (products are >> typically the deliverables of the group). There is an instance of >> tracker for the Web and TV IG available at (member-only link): >> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/ >> >> Tracker is a simple but powerful tool. Here is how things usually work: >> >> 1/ someone sends a use case, a suggestion, or a question to >> public-web-and-tv@w3.org. >> 2/ a chair or a task force moderator creates an issue on Tracker to >> keep track of this use case, linking the initial email. Let's say that >> the issue that gets created is ISSUE-38. >> 3/ discussion follows. Tracker monitors the mailing-list and >> automatically links emails that contain "ISSUE-38" to the issue in the >> Web interface. >> 4/ if something needs to be done to solve the issue, someone should be >> "actioned" to investigate or propose solutions. For instance, ACTION-97 >> could be created on you to report on the processing power needed to run >> typical CSS Transformations within the next two weeks (I'm totally >> making this up, obviously). This action would be linked to ISSUE-38. >> Same as with issues, tracker tracks emails that contain "ACTION-97" >> automatically. >> 5/ Once actions are done and there does not seem to be any more >> disagreement on a topic, the chair or moderator should issue a short >> call for consensus on the mailing-list, or propose a resolution during >> a teleconference call (if the task force meets on the phone for >> instance). >> 6/ the chair or moderator notes the outcome of the discussion in >> Tracker and closes the issue and associated actions. >> >> The power of the tool lies in the ability to keep on using emails to >> discuss issues and propose changes. Through "trackbot", Tracker also >> monitors the #webtv channel on W3C IRC server. That's very useful >> during teleconferences call to manage issues and actions without even >> having to use the Web-based interface. >> >> The Web-based interface provides different useful views: actions you >> need to do, open actions, overdue actions, actions that are pending >> review by the rest of the group, etc. In other words, Tracker provides >> a formal organization on top of informal mail and chat exchanges. >> >> Tracker features are described in: >> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/ >> >> Kaz and I are here to assist with tools, so feel free to ask questions. >> >> HTH, >> Francois. > > -- Giuseppe Pascale TV & Connected Devices Opera Software - Sweden
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