Data sharing and public/private group status

Hey,

Sorry for the long email.

TL;DR;
* I think we miss Apple's voice in interest targeting conversations.
IIRC they asked the group to be public. Can we/Have we made any
progress?
* Sharing data seems to be of critical importance and yet it carries
confidentiality risks, can we discuss ways to achieve sharing with
browsers?

Longer form:

A few weeks ago there was probably the first exchange of opinion
around TURTLEDOVE, SPARROW and Apple's opinion of the various
proposals.

At the same time it was made clear that Apple generally would prefer
to work in a public setting, as in PING, and that this group isn't
public by default.

Have I misunderstood this? If I haven't, I was wondering if we could
make some progress on this. I find that lacking Apple's voice in these
conversation is a major set back. And, as John Wilander represented,
he/Apple didn't consider a good use of time to find alternative
solutions or evolutions to TURTLEDOVE before all/many browser vendors
have aligned on it, or at least on the principles of it, but this
doesn't seem evident to me.

As a related aside, one of the complications of making the list public
is obviously that the sharing of information from members becomes more
complicated due to secrecy and other bureaucratic factors. However,
judging by the conversation in response to Facebook's conversion
paper, it would seem that sharing papers, and/or other data in similar
format, is one of the primary ways to drive home potential
implementation changes.

* Are browser vendors only interested in publicly available papers or
would they be interested in a public list with a private data room?
* What should be the format of sharing such potentially private
information from companies? I shared some in the call about our
business, but obviously having it in a more format repository such as
those used by the w3c proposals would be ideal since they could be
accessed and referenced.
* Is there interest, from the adtech/publisher world, in sharing this
kind of private information? If so, under what conditions?

I'm aware that, generally speaking, this data can be considered
fundamentally confidential, but we are at a point in time in which
overweighting on the secrecy could hurt future returns significantly,
but maybe by putting together enough adtech/pubs and sharing/merging
research among us first, would provide enough secrecy and
anonymization that would prevent some obvious leakages.

-- 
Valentino Volonghi
CTO, Founding Team
dialtone@nextroll.com

Received on Monday, 15 June 2020 20:07:53 UTC