RE: Do we need to define 'non-web' ?

Works.


From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 3:00 PM
To: David MacDonald
Cc: 'Peter Korn'; Hoffman, Allen; public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org; kirsten@can-adapt.com
Subject: Re: Do we need to define 'non-web' ?

we figured out a way to handle this without defining the term.

We simply refer to WCAG2ICT as a complement to WCAG.

If it is covered by WCAG -- then use WCAG.   if not then WCAG2ICT can be consulted -- which also refers to WCAG and gives advice on how to interpret it if you want to use it with something that looks non-web.   (or something along this line)


Gregg
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On Aug 23, 2013, at 12:05 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>> wrote:


Hmmm... why not... its not on the web anymore...

otherwise we'd have to go back and unravel our WCAG definition, no?

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From: Peter Korn [mailto:peter.korn@oracle.com<http://oracle.com>]
Sent: August 23, 2013 12:36 PM
To: Hoffman, Allen
Cc: Gregg Vanderheiden; public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org<mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org> Force
Subject: Re: Do we need to define 'non-web' ?

Gregg, Allen,

I hate this last-minute stuff...

Is it a web document if you open it via file://<file:///\\> ?  With browser plug-ins I can open word documents that are stored on my local file system in that fashion, but I don't think we want a locally stored document to be non-Web...


Peter
On 8/23/2013 9:22 AM, Hoffman, Allen wrote:
Gregg:

I think we do need to define it and thanks for a starter.

Can you include a plain language phrase somewhere like:
Not accessed via a user-agent or "browser".  A definition as you propose seems "accurate" but leads to more definitions and starts to become an endless trail.  Sometimes accuracy can get in the way of communication even though that sounds so backwards.




From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:59 AM
To: public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org<mailto:public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org> Force
Subject: Do we need to define 'non-web' ?


Someone asked me the definition of non-web.   and I went to WCAG2ICT to see and we don't define it

we define document
but not non-web though we use it everywhere

I don't know if we need to define it -- but if we do - (and is suspect we might) here is one to look at -- and a heads up that this will be on todays discussion at least.



non-web  (as used in WCAG2ICT)

            not obtained from a URI using HTTP, and not a resource that is only used in the rendering or intended only to be rendered together with something obtained from a URI using HTTP.




RATIONALE
WCAG2ICT is about things that are not already covered by  WCAG

 WCAG applies to things obtained from a URI using HTTP plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it



Gregg
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Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
Director Trace R&D Center
Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
and Biomedical Engineering University of Wisconsin-Madison
Technical Director - Cloud4all Project - http://Cloud4all.info
Co-Director, Raising the Floor - International - http://Raisingthefloor.org
and the Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure Project -  http://GPII.net


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