- From: Peter Korn <peter.korn@oracle.com>
- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:52:58 -0700
- To: "public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org" <public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>
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[It appears this didn't go out last night as I had intended...] Hi gang, On the call this morning I took the action to apply my suggested changes to Gregg's proposal #4 for the last 3 SCs. I worked with Gregg on this, and we now have something. Please see "Proposal 6-clean Peter & Gregg 28Oct" for a clean version, or "Proposal 6-markup Peter & Gregg 28Oct" for a change-tracked / marked up version, at: https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/cross-cutting-issues-and-notes/remaining-3-scs This new version #6 does the following new things (compared to version #4 that was just surveyed): 1. Instead of a "common block", we have "template text" that gets varied slightly for the 3 SCs. The variation is to include a re-statement of that SC with our substitutions - the pattern Andi established that we should strive to do for all of our previously consensed SCs 2. Adds to the "template text" for documents an example of a set of documents, based on text we had worked out previously 3. Re-writes the first two paragraphs in the "template text" for software. * First para now goes into more detail on the troubles we had trying to define "set of software" * Second para now describes what we do about these troubles 4. Removes the third/final paragraph in the "template text" for software which was suggesting folks "draw advice", and instead propose new Intent language to WCAG WG for 2.4.1 and 3.2.3 (we didn't think the advice applied to 2.4.5 in situations where you didn't have a set) 5. In 2.4.1 we note the "substitution text" to substitute into the template, and add to what we already are suggesting WCAG WG add to Intent 6. In 2.4.5 we note the "substitution text" to substitute into the template, and add three more Notes to add to 2.4.5 for Documents, which come from discussions we had before about notes to add to this SC for documents letting folks know all the ways in which this gets met by most platforms automatically 7. In 3.2.3 we note the "substitution text" to substitute into the template, and we ask WCAG WG to add something to Intent Before we formally survey this, I'd like to invite group discussion on the list of this proposal. For my part, I very happy with what we've come up with, except I am still not 100% comfortable with our "template text" advice for software (that's the change I summarized in thing #3 "second thing" above). Here's the key text from the wiki page proposal #6: Because after considerable effort we were (1) unable to find a viable definition for what a "set of software" means that could be applied across software in general, and (2) unable to find any clear example of "sets of software" in the wild that seemed to be an equivalent of "set of Web pages", the task force could not find a way to provide guidance on how to apply this success criterion to "software in a set of software". Therefore: 1. individual instances of software would automatically meet this success criterion - because this success criterion applies only to things that appear in a set, and 2. since we cannot determine how to interpret "set of software", we cannot offer any specific guidance on how to apply this success criterion to "software in a set of software"* * For my part, I find the very last bit of text - 'we cannot offer any specific guidance on how to apply this success criterion to "software in a set of software"' fundamentally unsatisfying. So I would particularly like to invite group discussion on the text we are using to treat this issue. Regards, Peter -- Oracle <http://www.oracle.com> Peter Korn | Accessibility Principal Phone: +1 650 5069522 <tel:+1%20650%205069522> 500 Oracle Parkway | Redwood City, CA 94065 Green Oracle <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment
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