- From: Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:35:31 -0600
- To: public-wcag-teamc@w3.org
I would modify the title of Example 1 from "An on-line test requires students to write a short summary of a longer document." to "An on-line test requires students to write a summary using words that are highlighted with a different font." Can we add an example of where conveying the information in text is not required? Example 3. Emphasizing words In a paragraph, key words have been emphasized with bold text. Because the bold style can be programmatically determined, a screen reader reads the words with emphasis to blind users. Andi "Becky Gibson" <Becky_Gibson@not esdev.ibm.com> To Sent by: public-wcag-teamc@w3.org public-wcag-teamc cc -request@w3.org Subject Changes to G117 to support merging 12/11/2006 02:55 1.3.1 and 1.3.4 PM At the December 4 team C meeting we discussed changes to the 1.3.1 how to meet document [1] to support folding 1.3.4 into 1.3.1. Andi expressed some concern about including G117 [2], "Using text to convey information that is conveyed by variations in presentation of text", as a sufficient technique because it does not require the variations in presentation of text to use semantic markup as is required by 1.3.1. This brings up the age old question of what exactly is programmatically determined. Changes to the font via CSS can be programmatically determined. However, what that CSS styling change means (the information) is NOT conveyed programmatically. Thus, changes in presentation made via CSS to convey information would fail 1.3.1 (and this is covered in Failure F2: Failure of SC 1.3.1 and 1.3.4 due to using CSS to create variations in presentation of text that conveys information without also using the appropriate markup or text). I think the question is, in the case where the user is not conveying the INFORMATION in a programmatically determined manner, is using text to convey the information a sufficient technique for 1.3.1? Here is how I would modify G117 to cover that: Description conveyed through variations in the formatting of text it is also conveyed in text, unless the information conveyed can also be programmatically determined. When the visual appearance of text is varied to convey information and the information is not programmatically determinable, state the information explicitly via text. Variations in the visual appearance can be made by changes in styling or via markup elements such as HTML strong, em, cite and others. When variations are made via style changes only, the information conveyed can not be programmatically determined and that information needs to be available elsewhere in the content via text. When changes are made via markup elements which convey meaning such as strong and em, the information can be determined programmatically. Including additional sections in the document or an in-line description where the variation in presentation of text occurs can be used to convey the information. examples where the information can not be programmatically determined and thus the information must also be provided in text. Perhaps provide an introduction to the examples: where the information conveyed by the changes in presentation can not be programmatically determined and an additional text description is required. example 1 and example 2 remain unchanged. Add to the related techniques section: up structure Update the test section: presentation of text are used to convey information <ins>and the information can not be programmatically determined.</ins> conveyed <ins>only</ins> visually is also stated explicitly in text. Results [1] http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=In_progress_update_of_HTM_1.3.1 [2] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060801/Overview.html#G117. [3] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060801/Overview.html#F2 Becky Gibson IBM Emerging Internet Technologies 01886
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