- From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
- Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:21:12 -0600
- To: "Becky Gibson" <Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com>, <public-wcag-teamb@w3.org>
Thanks so much, Becky! This is extremely helpful. I've made some preliminary comments below, marked with [js]. I know everyone's trying to get some vacation time in (and some people are actually away from their computers!!<grin>), but we have a time crunch since GL 1.3 is on the agenda for the 5 January call. So I will make suggestions wherever I can for discussion at our next Team B call (time to be announced). John "Good design is accessible design." Dr. John M. Slatin, Director Accessibility Institute University of Texas at Austin FAC 248C 1 University Station G9600 Austin, TX 78712 ph 512-495-4288, fax 512-495-4524 email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu Web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility -----Original Message----- From: public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org [mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Becky Gibson Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 2:14 PM To: public-wcag-teamb@w3.org Subject: What needs to be completed for Guideline 1.3 I went through Guideline 1.3 and created a list of what I think needs to be completed for each Success Criterion. Since the how to meet documents have been accepted by the working group I did not review the list of sufficient techniques for each success criterion. The format of this document is not readily usable so I will be trying to create it into a table for easier reading. These are just my proposals to get us started - please comment! There is one issue, 1605, which applies to the Guideline text. Here is the information Christophe provided in his recent 1.3 issue summary: <Christophe> 1605. title of Guideline 1.3* Reviewer states that the success criteria addresses separation of information and presentation, but not functionality, so "functionality" can be deleted from the guideline text. * True, the success criteria do not mention functionality. Separation of functionality from structure and presentation sounds like "Unobtrusive JavaScript" (http://www.onlinetools.org/articles/unobtrusivejavascript/, http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/articles/unobtrusiveshowhide.php, http://adactio.com/atmedia2005/, http://www.sitepoint.com/books/dhtml1/, http://domscripting.com/, etcetera). We could try to extract some technology-independent functional outcomes from these technology-specific techniques, or consider deleting "functionality" from the guideline text. </Christophe> [js] I think we can safely propose deleting the word "functionality" from the Guideline text. I tried to come up with a SC as Christophe suggests. But I couldn't come up with anything that wasn't already addressed by SC 2.1.1 (operable via keyboard interface) or GL 4.1 (compatible with AT) or GL 4.2 (accessible alternatives). Another issue which affect more than one success criteria is 1309 which has concerns about the definition of programmatically determined. While the definition has changed since this issue was submitted, there has been recent discussion about replacing the term programmatically determined with its definition. This was discussed at the December 8, 2005 teleconference and Gian and David took an action item. ACTION: Gian and David to cover issues around programmatically determined, to work on the term and the definition [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/08-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]. [js] I'll follow up on this. The issue affects a number of SC that Team B will be working on under GL 2.4, 3.1, and 4.1, so it's a big one for us and for the WG as a whole. Success Criterion 1.3.1 - Perceivable structures within the content can be programmatically determined Issues: #1309 (general issue for GL 1.3) [js] See previous note on 1309. no category 1 issues which are specific to 1.3.1 Techniques: There are three proposed general techniques but since the 1.3.1 relies on a combination of techniques which are not linked with AND, I believe that we need only one of these general techniques completed. There are several completed HTML and CSS techniques so we do not need further work on these before last call. Actions: 1) Complete one general technique. I propose the one about simple text formatting, Using standard text formatting conventions to allow structure in a simple text document to be programmatically determined, since I think it will be the most useful. [js] I think this is a good idea. Will someone volunteer to do this one asap? 2) Determine how to complete the general technique that suggests using one or more the technology specific techniques. Do we need an actual technique document for this? Can it be a generic template that is used for all of the success criteria that have this same concept of referring to technology specific techniques? [js] The answer to this question affects the work of all 3 teams. Personally I would like to be able to handle this in "boilerplate" text at the beginning of the Techniques section in the How to Meet docs so we don't require our readers to follow a link to a page that contains only generic content. (Of course this doesn't work if the link points to information about how a specific combination of techniques works to to satisfy a specific SC.) Success Criterion 1.3.2 - When information is conveyed by color, the color can be programmatically determined or the information is also conveyed through another means that does not depend on the user's ability to differentiate colors Issues: #1309 (general issue for GL 1.3) #1607 and 1608 - Yvette and Gregg took an action item at the December 15 meeting that should address both issues. ACTION: Yvette and Gregg to review 1.3.2 and 1.3.4 to address programmatically determined, guaranteeing visual access at level 2 and making the working consistent. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/15-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action04] Techniques: Several proposed general techniques for three situations - none completed; no HTML techniques, 1 completed CSS technique Actions: 1) Work with Yvette and Gregg for resolution of issues 1607 and 1608- this may result in the proposal for new success criterion text. Should get this resolved before working on the techniques since it may affect the techniques. [js] I agree. I'll send a note to Greg and Yvette. 2) create general technique for situation A. There is a choice of techniques to create. Suggest either Ensuring that color encoded information is also available in text (a description). or Including a character cue whenever color cues are used (e.g. asterisk next to red items) since these are also sufficient techniques for 1.3.4. But, Using text and text formatting (e.g. Unicode text with color styling) AND Using the same colored text in the legend or instructions introducing the use of color are probably the most appropriate. [js]I suggest completing the first one, about ensuring that color-encoded information is also available in text. We could use the one about text and text formatting for SC 1.3.3 (variations in presentation of text ). 3) create general technique for situation B - Using color and pattern [js] Can someone volunteer for this one? 4) create general technique for situation C - Using features of the technology to ensure that color attributes are available via the accessibility API. [js] Again need a volunteer. Success Criterion 1.3.3 - Information that is conveyed by variations in presentation of text is also conveyed in text or the variations in presentation of text can be programmatically determined. Issues: #1766. Missing glossary entries - variations in presentation of text should be defined Techniques: Two proposed general techniques; Two completed HTML techniques Actions: 1) #Issue 1766 - determine if definition of phrase "variations in presentation" is needed. If so, draft definition. Note that there is a definition of presentation. 2) Since there are two sufficient HTML techniques I don't think there is additional technique work required. But, suggest completing the one that suggests that using technology specific techniques is sufficient to meet the guideline. This should be completed as part of 1.3.1 so we should just need to make sure it is linked properly to this success criterion. [js] Agree. Success Criterion 1.3.4 - Any information that is conveyed by color is visually evident when color is not available. Issues: #1607 and 1608 which also affect 1.3.2 Techniques: Three proposed general techniques but all are also used in 1.3.2. No proposed or completed HTML or CSS techniques. Actions: 1) Work with Yvette and Gregg for resolution of issues 1607 and 1608- this may result in the proposal for new success criterion text. This should be completed first since it may affect the techniques. [js] As noted under 1.3.2, I'll follow up with Gregg and Yvette. 2) Link to the general technique that was created for 1.3.2 situation A 3) Link to general technique that was created for 1.3.2 Situation B. [js] This may be affected by any proposal from Gregg and Yvette. Success Criterion 1.3.5 - When content is arranged in a sequence that affects its meaning, that sequence can be programmatically determined. Issues: #1309 (general issue for GL 1.3) #1767 and 1789 which suggest that this SC should be at a higher level Techniques: Two proposed general techniques - sufficiency requires two. No proposed or completed HTML techniques. One proposed CSS Technique Actions: 1) create general technique, Including meaning-critical sequences in the programmatically determined reading order 2) create general technique, preserving meaning-critical sequences in alternate presentations. [js] I suggest that we use the examples in How to Meet (and possibly in the 30 June draft of General Techniques for GL 2.4) as the basis for writing these general techniques. Is anyone available to work on this? 3) research issue of correct priority level and propose resolution for 1767 and 1789. [js] Agree. I'll take this as an action item. Success Criterion 1.3.6 - Information required to understand and operate content does not rely on shape, size, visual location, or orientation of components. Issues: No category 1 issues which are specific to 1.3.6 Techniques: Two proposed general techniques - sufficiency requires one. No proposed or existing HTML or CSS techniques. Actions: 1) create one of the two general techniques: Providing textual identification of items that otherwise rely only on shape and/or position to be understood. or For information that is identified by shape or position also identify it by characteristics that are programmatically determined. [js] I suggest the first one-- likely to be more commonly used? Becky Gibson Web Accessibility Architect IBM Emerging Internet Technologies 5 Technology Park Drive Westford, MA 01886 Voice: 978 399-6101; t/l 333-6101 Email: gibsonb@us.ibm.com
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