- From: Roberto Ellero <rellero@webaccessibile.org>
- Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 16:30:19 +0100
- To: "Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>, <public-wcag-teama@w3.org>, <public-wcag-teamc@w3.org>, <public-wcag-teamb@w3c.org>
>>>> 1) I don't know what to do with this one: " There are also: (not in media-equiv_issues.php URL)" Simply the bug numbers after this one are not in http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/issuereports/media-equiv_issues.php (I've made a search in Bugzilla) >>>> 2) 1730 and 1731 I think need to stay open since we have questions >>>> about their level - yes? OK. >>>> 3) some #2's are not clear. When you add your sentence of rationale' >>>> it will help. Perhaps best if you format these like I did the ones for >>>> 1.4. OK. CLOSE - NOT RELATED TO CURRENT WORDING * 1152. <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/issuereports/media-equiv_issues.php> Some video does not require description 2 (see also 1624) Suggest we CLOSE this with comment Additional Comment #2 From Joe Clark 2005-08-24, to 1624 (related to 1152): http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1624 * 1153. <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/issuereports/media-equiv_issues.php> Radio show with interviews and songs 2 Suggest we CLOSE this because the bug no longer applies with our new wording. * 1370. <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/issuereports/media-equiv_issues.php> GL 1.2, Example 1 - can't understand 2 Suggest we CLOSE this because the bug no longer applies with our new wording. * 1627. <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/issuereports/media-equiv_issues.php> No universal sign language 2 Suggest we CLOSE this with Comment 2, (Joe Clark). * 1604. <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1604> Guideline 1.2 shows captions for a tutorial being in all upper case 2 Suggest we CLOSE this with Additional Comment #1 From Joe Clark. * 1624. <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1624> Silent video and animation need indication that they are silent It was 2, sorry my mistake, but is 5, in my opinion: "is important to note that the absence of sound might not be clear to deaf and hard of hearing people and an indication in text of the fact that this is a silent video, or stream, would be an important feature, otherwise such users might be under the impression that there is sound and they are missing part of the information." The same in the case of music used for introduction, not good neither to caption "music" for a few minutes, nor nothing. Needs discussion. Best regards, Roberto Ellero ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CLOSE - COVERED BY CURRENT WORDING 1151. Scoping requirements, relation to policy 1 [wiki http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_1.2_L1_SC1] 1625. Caption and transcripted needed in Level 1 1 1718. make what is accessible to AT clear 1 1730. Guideline 1.2 L1 SC 1b Captioning should remain at Level 1 1 1731. GL 1.2 L1/L2: Audio descriptions should remain at Level 1 1 CLOSE - NOT RELATED TO CURRENT WORDING 1152. Some video does not require description 2 (see also 1624) 1153. Radio show with interviews and songs 2 1370. GL 1.2, Example 1 - can't understand 2 1627. No universal sign language 2 1604. Guideline 1.2 shows captions for a tutorial being in all upper case 2 1624. Silent video and animation need indication that they are silent 2 CLOSE -- SUGGEST REJECTING FOR FOLLOWING REASON 1534. Example of musical soundtrack with lyrics 3 1704. Audio descriptions "undue hardship" at level 1 3 1602. Audio Descriptions should not be L1 3 - Suggest accepting Joe Clark's comment and closing 1754. Objection to captions at level 1 3 CLOSE AFTER MAKING THE FOLLOWING CHANGES 1729. Guideline 1.2 - L1 SC 1a: Text transcripts should remain Level 1 4 (also 1625 and 1732 related) My opinion is Suggest making the following change : Change 1.2.1 to "Provide captions AND provide a text transcript of all audio intermixed with a text description of what is happening visually." 1601. Captions transcripts as level 1 (see 1729 suggested change) KEEP AS OPEN ISSUE 1732. GL 1.2 Benefits comments 5 Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr. Director - Trace R & D Center University of Wisconsin-Madison -----Original Message----- From: Roberto Ellero [mailto:rellero@webaccessibile.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:33 PM To: Gregg Vanderheiden; public-wcag-teama@w3.org; public-wcag-teamc@w3.org; public-wcag-teamb@w3c.org Subject: Re: Next step Hi, I volunteered for issues for Guideline 1.2. ---------- 1 - addressed by our current edits 2 - OBE (overcome by events) (e.g. the bug no longer applies with our new wording) 3 - Suggest rejecting comment and closing (based on our discussions to date) 4 - Suggest making the following change and closing it 5 - keep item open. ---------- [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/issuereports/media-equiv_issues.php] No Pending Issues. Open Issues: 1151. Scoping requirements, relation to policy 1 [wiki http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Guide_to_1.2_L1_SC1] 1152. Some video does not require description 2 (see also 1624) 1153. Radio show with interviews and songs 2 1370. GL 1.2, Example 1 - can't understand 2 1534. Example of musical soundtrack with lyrics 3 1625. Caption and transcripted needed in Level 1 1 1627. No universal sign language 2 1704. Audio descriptions "undue hardship" at level 1 3 1718. make what is accessible to AT clear 1 1729. Guideline 1.2 - L1 SC 1a: Text transcripts should remain Level 1 4 (also 1625 and 1732 related) My opinion is Suggest making the following change : Change 1.2.1 to "Provide captions AND provide a text transcript of all audio intermixed with a text description of what is happening visually." 1730. Guideline 1.2 L1 SC 1b Captioning should remain at Level 1 1 1731. GL 1.2 L1/L2: Audio descriptions should remain at Level 1 1 1732. GL 1.2 Benefits comments 5 There are also: (not in media-equiv_issues.php URL) 1601. Captions transcripts as level 1 (see 1729 suggested change) 1604. Guideline 1.2 shows captions for a tutorial being in all upper case 2 1624. Silent video and animation need indication that they are silent 2 1602. Audio Descriptions should not be L1 3 - Suggest accepting Joe Clark's comment and closing 1754. Objection to captions at level 1 3 Best regards, Roberto Ellero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu> To: "'Roberto Ellero'" <rellero@webaccessibile.org>; <public-wcag-teama@w3.org>; <public-wcag-teamc@w3.org>; <public-wcag-teamb@w3c.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: RE: Next step You have it. Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr. Director - Trace R & D Center University of Wisconsin-Madison -----Original Message----- From: public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org [mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Roberto Ellero Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:03 PM To: Gregg Vanderheiden; public-wcag-teama@w3.org; public-wcag-teamc@w3.org; public-wcag-teamb@w3c.org Subject: Re: Next step Hi, I'm interested in 1.2. Best regards, Roberto Ellero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu> To: <public-wcag-teama@w3.org>; <public-wcag-teamc@w3.org>; <public-wcag-teamb@w3c.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: RE: Next step So everyone can keep track of what has been assigned I will keep a list of the assignments in the Twiki Home page http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page Currently assigned are 1.4, 2.2, 2.3, 3.1 Please check the WIKI page before volunteering for a guideline. Please volunteer for a guideline.
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