Re: Failure due to generating markup using document.write() or ...

Hi Christophe,

I wonder if there was some misunderstanding at some point in the past,
and that's why this failure exists? Removing it seems the sensible
thing to do - can we do that without putting it up for survey? Or
maybe hold it back for now (as it's not complete), and put it up for
survey afterwards?

Best regards,

Gez

On 24/04/06, Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> wrote:
>
> At 18:45 24/04/2006, you wrote:
>
> >So you are suggesting that we REMOVE the failure?
> >
> >(did we accept this one at a meeting?)
>
> We said: "accept with edits (Team A to confirm w/ Cynthia and Yvette wrt
> comments on using these in an accessible way)".
> Cynthia said that testing with document.write in different browsers and
> with different AT didn't reveal problems,  at least if the HTML that is
> inserted is well-formed and semantically correct.
> At this moment, I don't know how to turn this into a failure for 4.1.2 (and
> the way it is currently written is closer to 4.1.1), so I don't know how to
> move forward with this.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christophe
>
> >Gregg
> >
> >  -- ------------------------------
> >Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> >Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> >Director - Trace R & D Center
> >University of Wisconsin-Madison
> >The Player for my DSS sound file is at http://tinyurl.com/dho6b
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org
> >[mailto:public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Christophe Strobbe
> >Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:32 AM
> >To: public-wcag-teama@w3.org
> >Subject: RE: Failure due to generating markup using document.write() or ...
> >
> >
> >
> >At 18:09 24/04/2006, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
> > >Hi Christophe
> > >
> > >I'm not sure I understand your email
> > >
> > >1) What action are you recommending?
> >
> >At the moment, it looks like we need to drop this failure.
> >
> > >2) What does  " But the current failure has not been accepted, eventually."
> > >mean?
> >
> >Acceptance depended on whether we could find accessible and inaccessible
> >ways of using document.write(). The way the title is phrased suggests that
> >using document.write() is a problem in general (unparsed content), but it
> >turns out that it may only be a problem if you use it to generate content
> >that fails the guidelines (e.g. ambiguous document structure). We could have
> >a "Failure due to using document.write() or document.writeln() to generate
> >an ambiguous document structure", but that would be just a reiteration of SC
> >4.1.1 with the addition of JavaScript.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Christophe
> >
> >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Gregg
> > >
> > >  -- ------------------------------
> > >Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> > >Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
> > >Director - Trace R & D Center
> > >University of Wisconsin-Madison
> > >The Player for my DSS sound file is at http://tinyurl.com/dho6b
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org
> > >[mailto:public-wcag-teama-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Christophe
> > >Strobbe
> > >Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:48 AM
> > >To: public-wcag-teama@w3.org
> > >Subject: Failure due to generating markup using document.write() or ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >In 4.1.2 we have a "Failure due to generating markup using
> > >document.write() or document.writeln() to write unparsed content"
> > >(previous name: "Failure due to generating markup using methods for writing
> >unparsed content").
> > >Apparently, document.write() does not cause problems as long as the
> > >html that is inserted is well-formed and semantically correct. There
> > >are problems when you use client-side script to generate HTML that
> > >doesn't meet the guidelines in some way, or modifying good HTML code in
> > >a way so that it no longer meets the guidelines. This is very general,
> > >unless you create one such (scripting) failure for every success criterion
> >where it is applicable.
> > >But the current failure has not been accepted, eventually.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Christophe
>
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