- From: Detlev Fischer <fischer@dias.de>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:29:15 +0100
- To: Kerstin Probiesch <k.probiesch@googlemail.com>
- Cc: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org
Hi Kerstin, Whoops, I may have been on the wrong track. I guess what you refer to describes uncertainty in *attestation*: evaluator's errors, omissions, or misjudgements, not error = the pin-downable flaws that we find in evaluating web sites. So maybe 'error' is best used exclusively as a term to describe variance in the evaluation process? But then, wasn't the term "margin of error" used in the context of marginal flaws that might be acknowledged without preventing the attestation of conformance? Not sure anymore, it's too late - must go back to the discussion... Regards, Detlev it just describes Quoting Kerstin Probiesch <k.probiesch@googlemail.com>: > Hi Detlev, > > "error margin" or "margin of error" is a term used in Test Development. Some > hints here: > http://www.linguee.com/english-german?query=margin+of+error&source=english. > Some further explanations here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_of_error. > > Regs > > Kerstin > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Detlev Fischer [mailto:fischer@dias.de] >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 21:16 >> An: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org >> Betreff: RE: Discussion 5.5 >> >> Hi Tim, >> >> English isn't my first language, but doesn't 'error' indicate that >> someone basically knew how to do something and erred (not always the >> case with the problems we encounter)? Maybe 'flaw' is the more >> accurate term? 'Failure instance' sounds pretty stilted and may easily >> get mixed up with (WCAG) Failures. >> >> Mhm..(scratching head)...mhm. >> >> Quoting "Boland Jr, Frederick E." <frederick.boland@nist.gov>: >> >> > According to some references I recently accessed, criticality >> > implies that the evaluation cannot continue until the problem has >> > been resolved, whereas non-criticality implies that the evaluation >> > may proceed with the problem noted. >> > >> > A definition of "error" (from >> > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/error?s=t >> > ) "a deviation from accuracy or correctness" >> > -which would seem to apply to "barrier" as well? >> > >> > A definition of "barrier" (from >> > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/barrier?s=t >> > ) "anything built or serving to bar passage" >> > -which would seem to imply criticality as mentioned previously >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > >> > In many cases, distinguishing between critical and non-critical is >> easy. >> > A keyboard trap or a lightbox dialogue that pops up without screen >> > reader users becoming aware of it is a critical violation. A >> graphical >> > navigation element without alt text is one as well. But a few missing >> > paragraphs or list tags in editorial content are probably non- >> critical. >> > However, there will be a grey area where the distinction is not so >> easy. >> > But that, in my view, should not lead to the conclusion that the >> > distinction cannot or must not be made. >> > >> > Not sure about terms, though. Is 'error' a good term for non-critical >> > violations and 'barrier' a good term for critical violations? >> > >> > Detlev >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> Detlev Fischer PhD >> DIAS GmbH - Daten, Informationssysteme und Analysen im Sozialen >> Geschäftsführung: Thomas Lilienthal, Michael Zapp >> >> Telefon: +49-40-43 18 75-25 >> Mobile: +49-157 7-170 73 84 >> Fax: +49-40-43 18 75-19 >> E-Mail: fischer@dias.de >> >> Anschrift: Schulterblatt 36, D-20357 Hamburg >> Amtsgericht Hamburg HRB 58 167 >> Geschäftsführer: Thomas Lilienthal, Michael Zapp >> --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Detlev Fischer PhD DIAS GmbH - Daten, Informationssysteme und Analysen im Sozialen Geschäftsführung: Thomas Lilienthal, Michael Zapp Telefon: +49-40-43 18 75-25 Mobile: +49-157 7-170 73 84 Fax: +49-40-43 18 75-19 E-Mail: fischer@dias.de Anschrift: Schulterblatt 36, D-20357 Hamburg Amtsgericht Hamburg HRB 58 167 Geschäftsführer: Thomas Lilienthal, Michael Zapp ---------------------------------------------------------------
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