- From: Michael S Elledge <elledge@msu.edu>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:15:06 -0500
- To: "Velleman, Eric" <evelleman@bartimeus.nl>, "Boland Jr, Frederick E." <frederick.boland@nist.gov>
- CC: Eval TF <public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>
Hi Eric (Tim, everyone)-- I agree with you. It seems that another criteria (along with "incidental") could be "systemic," when an error is repeated throughout the application. To me, a systemic error would generally be of greater consequence than an incidental error. This may also get at the question of barrier recognition. For example, finding a systemic error would reduce the need for checking the entire site for that problem. As for defining a systemic error, perhaps three instances would be sufficient? Mike On 1/11/2012 9:01 AM, Velleman, Eric wrote: > Hi Frederick, > > Yes agree, but I think we can have both discussions at the same time. So: > 1. How do we define an error margin to cover non-structuraal errors? > 2. How can an evaluator determine the impact of an error? > > I could imagine we make a distinction between structural and incidental errors. The 1 failed alt-attribute out of 100 correct ones would be incidental... unless (and there comes the impact): > a) it is a navigation element > b) the alt-attribute is necessary for the understanding of the information / interaction > c) other impact related thoughts? > d) there is an alternative > > We could set the acceptance rate for incidental errors. Example: the site would be totally conformant, but with statement that for alt-attributes, there are 5% incidental fails. > This also directly relates to conformance in WCAG2.0 specifically section 5 Non-interference. > > Eric > > > > ________________________________________ > Van: Boland Jr, Frederick E. [frederick.boland@nist.gov] > Verzonden: woensdag 11 januari 2012 14:32 > Aan: Velleman, Eric > CC: Eval TF > Onderwerp: RE: EvalTF discussion 5.5 > > As a preamble to this discussion, I think we need to define more precisely ("measure"?) what an "impact" would be (for example, impact to whom/what and what specifically are the consequences of said impact)? > > Thanks Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Velleman, Eric [mailto:evelleman@bartimeus.nl] > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:15 AM > To: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org > Subject: EvalTF discussion 5.5 > > Dear all, > > I would very much like to discuss section 5.5 about Error Margin. > > If one out of 1 million images on a website fails the alt-attribute this could mean that the complete websites scores a fail even if the "impact" would be very low. How do we define an error margin to cover these non-structural errors that have a low impact. This is already partly covered inside WCAG 2.0. But input and discussion would be great. > > Please share your thoughts. > Kindest regards, > > Eric > > > > >
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