- From: RichardWarren <richard.warren@userite.com>
- Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:11:32 +0100
- To: "Velleman, Eric" <evelleman@bartimeus.nl>, <public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>
Hi, Following on from discussing Eric’s target audience perhaps we should start on his suggested Requirements. I attach my comments below for starters. * Requirements: R01: Technical conformance to existing Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Recommendations and Techniques documents. Comment (RW) : I do not think we need the word technical. We should stick with WCAG as agreed when we discussed *A01. The recommendations and techniques are not relevant here as our priority is the Guidelines. It is possible for someone to comply with a particular guideline without using any of the recommended techniques. What we are after is methodology. I therefore suggest a suitable alternative as follows: *R01 Define methods for evaluating compliance with the accessibility guidelines (WCAG) R02: Tool and browser independent Comment (RW) : The principle is good but sometimes it may be necessary to use a particular tool such as a text-only browser. So I would prefer : *R02: Where possible the evaluation process should be tool and browser independent. R03: Unique interpretation Comment (RW) : I think this means that it should be unambiguous, that means it is not open to different interpretations. I am pretty sure that the W3C has a standard clause it uses to cover this point when building standards etc. Hopefully Shadi can find it <Grin> . This also implies use of standard terminology which we should be looking at as soon as possible so that terms like “atomic testing” do not creep into our procedures without clear /agreed definitions. R04: Replicability: different Web accessibility evaluators who perform the same tests on the same site should get the same results within a given tolerance. Comment (RW) : The first part is good, but I am not happy with introducing “tolerance” at this stage. I think we should be clear that we are after consistent, replicable tests. I think we should add separate requirement later for such things as “partial compliance” and “tolerance. See R14 below. *R04: Replicability: different Web accessibility evaluators who perform the same tests on the same site should get the same results. R05: Translatable Comment (RW) : As in translatable into different languages – Yes - agree R06: The methodology points to the existing tests in the techniques documents and does not reproduce them. Comment (RW) : yes – but I would like it a bit clearer that it is WCAG techniques. I would also like the option to introduce a new technique if it becomes available. So I suggest *R06 Where possible the methodology should point to existing tests and techniques in the WCAG documentation. R07: Support for both manual and automated evaluation. Comment (RW) : Not all Guidelines can be tested automatically and it is not viable to test some others manually. This needs to be clearer that the most appropriate methods will be used, whether manual or automatic. Where both options are available they must deliver the same result. *R07: Use the most appropriate manual or automatic evaluation. Where either could be used then both must deliver the same result. R08: Users include (see target audience) Comment (RW) : Whilst user testing is essential for confirming accessibility it is not needed/essential for checking compliance with WCAG. If we feel that user testing is needed then we must specify what users, what skill level, what tasks etc..so that evaluators all use the same type of user and get the same type of result. I would prefer not to include users here as a requirement. R09: Support for different contexts (i.e. self-assessment, third-party evaluation of small or larger websites). Comment (RW) : Agreed. R10: Includes recommendations for sampling web pages and for expressing the scope of a conformance claim Comment (RW) : I agree. This is probably going to be the most difficult issue, but it is essential if our methodology is going to be useable in the real world as illustrated by discussions already taking place. Should it include tolerance metrics (R14)? R11: Describes critical path analyses, Comment (RW) : I assume this is the CPA of the evaluation process (ie define website, test this, test that, write report etc.). In which case agreed R12: Covers computer assisted content selection and manual content selection Comment (RW) : I do not know what this means – can Eric explain ? R13: Includes integration and aggregation of the evaluation results and related conformance statements. Comment (RW) : I think this means “write a nice report” in which case I agree. R14: Includes tolerance metrics. Comment (RW) : Agreed – but maybe combine with R10 R15: The Methodology includes recommendations for harmonized (machine-readable) reporting. Comment (RW) : I am not sure that methodologies recommend things. Do you mean *R15: Reports must be machine readable. Best wishes Richard (RW) -----Original Message----- From: Velleman, Eric Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:56 PM To: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org Subject: Appendix to the agenda: Requirements draft Dear Eval TF, In our call, we will discuss further on the questions that are on the list. Please also react online. As a result of our last call, below you find a first draft of the possible requirements for the methodology. We will discuss this further tomorrow in our call: First Draft Section on Requirements * Objectives: The main objective is an internationally harmonized methodology for evaluating the conformance of websites to WCAG 2.0. This methodology will support different contexts, such as for self-assessment or third-party evaluation of small or larger websites. It intends to cover recommendations for sampling web pages and for expressing the scope of a conformance claim, critical path analyses, computer assisted content selection, manual content selection, the evaluation of web pages, integration and aggregation of the evaluation results and conformance statements. The methodology will also address tolerance metrics. The Methodology also includes recommendations for harmonized (machine-readable) reporting. This work is part of other related W3C/WAI activities around evaluation and testing. More on the EvalTF page. * Target Audience: A01: All organization evaluating one or more websites A02: Web accessibility benchmarking organizations A03: Web content producers wishing to evaluate their content A04: Developers of Evaluation and Repair Tools A05: Policy makers and Web site owners wishing to evaluate websites The person(s) using the Methodology should be knowledgeable of the Guidelines and people with disabilities. * Requirements: R01: Technical conformance to existing Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Recommendations and Techniques documents. R02: Tool and browser independent R03: Unique interpretation R04: Replicability: different Web accessibility evaluators who perform the same tests on the same site should get the same results within a given tolerance. R05: Translatable R06: The methodology points to the existing tests in the techniques documents and does not reproduce them. R07: Support for both manual and automated evaluation. R08: Users include (see target audience) R09: Support for different contexts (i.e. self-assessment, third-party evaluation of small or larger websites). R10: Includes recommendations for sampling web pages and for expressing the scope of a conformance claim R11: Describes critical path analyses, R12: Covers computer assisted content selection and manual content selection R13: Includes integration and aggregation of the evaluation results and related conformance statements. R14: Includes tolerance metrics. R15: The Methodology includes recommendations for harmonized (machine-readable) reporting. The methodology describes the expected level of expertise for persons carrying out the evaluation and the possibility to conduct evaluations in teams using roles. There is also a description of the necessity to involve people with disabilities.
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