- From: RichardWarren <richard.warren@userite.com>
- Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:45:57 -0000
- To: "Vivienne CONWAY" <v.conway@ecu.edu.au>, "Eval TF" <public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>
Hi Vivienne, Random sampling is used to support/extend the other sampling processes. I suggested using a combination of three types Structural, Task and Random. The random sample is only one part of the sampling process, my suggestion was to use it at the end. I am afraid that I did not structure my original message well, I should have described random sampling at the end of the list - not the beginning. To be effective I believe that it is necessary to conduct all three sample methods. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Vivienne CONWAY Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:40 PM To: Velleman, Eric ; RichardWarren ; Eval TF Subject: RE: Sampling HI all Unless I'm missing something, if we are talking about random sampling methods, how do we make sure they include those 'complete processes'. Do we look at doing random sampling, plus complete processes, plus core elements of the website (website purpose).? Regards Vivienne L. Conway, B.IT(Hons) PhD Candidate & Sessional Lecturer, Edith Cowan University, Perth, W.A. Director, Web Key IT Pty Ltd. v.conway@ecu.edu.au v.conway@webkeyit.com Mob: 0415 383 673 This email is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify me immediately by return email or telephone and destroy the original message. ________________________________________ From: Velleman, Eric [evelleman@bartimeus.nl] Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2011 7:35 PM To: RichardWarren; Eval TF Subject: RE: Sampling Hi, Yes, agree, the evaluation will need to specify the resources that have been evaluated. If the evaluation needs to be replicable and allow synchronous or asynchronous comparisons (like monitoring) the evaluation sample must be generated by a uniform random procedure that is partly described by Richard in an earlier mail (see bottom of this message). Partly, because the situation for our uniform random procedure is a bit more complicated than with WCAG 1.0. There are some additional factors at work here that are described in the Scope section like accessibility support and use of different technologies and more. This is covered in WCAG 2.0 like also described by Alistair in an earlier mail but we will have to check if that is enough for the purpose of the evaluation report. Question: Can we make a list of what should minimally be in the core resource list (if available in the scope of the Website that is being evaluated)? We will discuss the size of the sample later. Using Richards list I come to: Home Page, Site Map, Section landing pages (is there a maximum?) Any sub-section landing pages (usually linked to from the section landing pages) Forms Data tables Multimedia (maybe we have to be more specific here) While reading, the following additions seem interesting to add: Help resource Contact information resource Search and extended search resources including resulting resources Distinct web technology pages (...) Pages with other programming languages CSS alternatives for mobile, (more..) Frames (are they still used?) Also: Resources representative of each category of resources having a substantially distinct “look and feel” (typically representative of distinct underlying site “templates”) (if identifiable). Resources describing accessibility features and / or the accessibility policy of the site (if any). The resource list as a whole should, as far as possible, collectively address all the applicable sampling objectives within the scope of the evaluation. Kindest regards, Eric ________________________________________ Van: RichardWarren [richard.warren@userite.com] Verzonden: donderdag 15 december 2011 11:09 Aan: Eval TF Onderwerp: Re: Sampling Hi Eric is correct that we are evaluating (and therefore sampling) at a moment in time. I presume that we will include documentation of pages visited etc. so that the process can be audited (we normally keep a checked list from the site map). This check list can be just as useful for Vivienne's monitoring. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Vivienne CONWAY Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:11 AM To: Velleman, Eric ; Boland Jr, Frederick E. ; RichardWarren ; Eval TF Subject: RE: Sampling Hi all For my current research project, I have used a targetted sampling method. As well as scanning the whole site with automated tools to check for trends, I have chosen 5 pages from each website to check manually according to the WCAG 2.0 guidelines. These pages reflect as many WCAG 2.0 checkpoints as possible: home page, contact us page (or something with a form), page with photos, page with multimedia, and a page describing their services or other page with some complexity. As I check these websites repeatedly, I will check the same pages to see their progression (or degeneration) over time. Regards Vivienne L. Conway, B.IT(Hons) PhD Candidate & Sessional Lecturer, Edith Cowan University, Perth, W.A. Director, Web Key IT Pty Ltd. v.conway@ecu.edu.au v.conway@webkeyit.com Mob: 0415 383 673 This email is confidential and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify me immediately by return email or telephone and destroy the original message. ________________________________________ From: Velleman, Eric [evelleman@bartimeus.nl] Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2011 7:22 AM To: Boland Jr, Frederick E.; RichardWarren; Eval TF Subject: RE: Sampling Frederick, your remark made me think of time lapse sampling: It could be that a website/webpage changes over time on purpose. For example: it could show images and text related to the time of the day or the feeling of the owner. If the owner feels bad at 8 am, then the page is dark but after his first cup of coffee, the page looks bright and happy... In that case it could be interesting to sample the same page at different times but I do not know how to put this into the methodology, maybe in a footnote? Eric ________________________________ Van: Boland Jr, Frederick E. [frederick.boland@nist.gov] Verzonden: woensdag 14 december 2011 21:48 Aan: RichardWarren; Eval TF Onderwerp: RE: Sampling We may also need to sample over time, since a site’s pages/content may change over time, which could affect WCAG2.0 conformance and/or resultant accessibility of the site.. or provide a date/time (required component) of evaluation for pages/site.. Questions that may arise in this regard are: how often to sample, etc. (for example, do we just want to sample when there are major content changes, or do we just want to sample at regular intervals regardless of any perceived changes, or do we want to apply different strategies for different parts of a site?) Thanks Tim Boland From: RichardWarren [mailto:richard.warren@userite.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:32 PM To: Eval TF Subject: Sampling Hi, To reduce the effort of evaluating a large site I suggest that there are three methods of sampling the site’s pages/content which can be coupled with a barrier identification technique to avoid constant repetition. The three sampling techniques for manual evaluation are :- 1) Random sampling - selecting a number of pages at random. This can be done by making a random selection from the site map, or to take every tenth (or other suitable number) of links from the site map. 2) Structure sampling – selecting the higher level structural pages such as Home Page, Site Map, section landing pages (usually linked from the Home page within the main navigation bar), any sub-section landing pages (usually linked to from the section landing pages, plus (if not already found) a sample of pages containing elements such as forms, data tables and multi-media. 3) Task orientated sampling – Completing the key tasks on the site required to meet the site’s purpose. This might include tasks such as to source certain information, place an order or participate in a discussion. Barrier identification reduces effort further by noting examples of common failures in technique employed within the site and once identified and commented on we can ignore further occurrences within that section. We use a combination of all three sampling methods. We start with 2 (structured sample) to explore the site and obtain an overview of its’ purpose etc. Next we attempt the key tasks. Then we do a random sample (skipping any pages already sampled). Richard This e-mail is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not disclose or use the information contained within. If you have received it in error please return it to the sender via reply e-mail and delete any record of it from your system. The information contained within is not the opinion of Edith Cowan University in general and the University accepts no liability for the accuracy of the information provided. CRICOS IPC 00279B This e-mail is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not disclose or use the information contained within. If you have received it in error please return it to the sender via reply e-mail and delete any record of it from your system. 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