- From: Vivienne CONWAY <v.conway@ecu.edu.au>
- Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:11:54 +0800
- To: "fischer@dias.de" <fischer@dias.de>, "public-wai-evaltf@w3.org" <public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>
Thanks Detlev. As I will be looking at these sites regularly (primarily with automated tools due to the number of sites), what is puzzling me most is how to actually score them. While I like the pass/fail/near approach for the site owner's use, to compare them I need percentages. Such as: P: 65% O: 80% U: 25% R: 90% Overall: 65% Problem is, how to work out that percentage. I could use number of violations/number of pages checked. However this does not weight the more critical errors - like the ones you cited. I could work out some kind of algorithm where violations of the critical issues were say 1.5:1, items such as non-critical validation errors were .5:1 or something similar. Thoughts? Regards Vivienne L. Conway ________________________________________ From: public-wai-evaltf-request@w3.org [public-wai-evaltf-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of fischer@dias.de [fischer@dias.de] Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 11:04 PM To: public-wai-evaltf@w3.org Subject: RE: some initial questions from the previous thread Quoting Vivienne CONWAY <v.conway@ecu.edu.au>: > HI all > Just thought I'd weigh in on this one as I'm currently puzzling over > the issue of how to score websites. I'm just about to start a > research project where I'll have over 100 websites assessed monthly > over a period of 2 + years. If you will be doing this on your own or without team this work programme translates to checking more than 4-5 sites per day! And if the compliance level is AA you probably need to focus on some key requirements, especially those where a failure would make a site completely inaccessible to some population. Just looking at WCAG success criteria, these may be the ones which most often exclude people, ordered by importance from testing experience(feel free to disagree): * Lack of keyboard accessibility (SC 2.1.1, 2.1.2) * Important images like controls without alt text (1.1.1) * CAPTCHAs w/o alternative (SC 1.1.1) * Lack of captions in videos (SC 1.2.2, 1.2.4) * Really low contrast of text (SC 1.4.3) * Bad or no visibility of focus (SC 2.4.7) * Important controls implemented as background image without text replacement (SC 1.1.1) * Important fields (such as search text input) w/o labels (SC 2.4.6) * lack of structure (e.g. no or inconsistent headings) (SC 1.3.1) * Self-starting / unstoppable animation, carussels, etc (SC 2.2.1, 2.2.2) Well, having written this, it may seem a bit arbitrary - but I believe the list has many or most of the grave errors that we encounter in testing. If there was a statistic on "show stoppers" things that make sites inaccessible or impede access severely, such an approach had a better basis, of course... Just my 2 cents, Detlev ) that can be tested relatively quickly and without going onto too much detail. I think as long as the method is transparent, / documented and its limitations are clearly stated, the results can still be valuable. I need to come up with a scoring method > (preferably a percentage) due to the need to compare a website > within those of its own classification (e.g. federal government, > corporate, etc), and compare the different classifications. I am > thinking of a method where the website gets a percentage score for > each of the POUR principles, and then an overall score. What I'm > strugling with is what scoring method to use and how to put > different weights upon different aspects and at different levels. > I'll be assessing to WCAG 2.0 AA (as that's the Australian > standard). All input and suggestions are gratefully accepted and > may also be useful to our discussions here as it's a real-life > situation for me. It also relates to may of the questions raised in > this thread by Shadi. Looking forward to some interesting discussion. > > > Regards > > Vivienne L. Conway > ________________________________________ > From: public-wai-evaltf-request@w3.org > [public-wai-evaltf-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Shadi Abou-Zahra > [shadi@w3.org] > Sent: Monday, 22 August 2011 7:34 PM > To: Eval TF > Subject: some initial questions from the previous thread > > Dear Eval TF, > > From the recent thread on the construction of WCAG 2.0 Techniques, here > are some questions to think about: > > * Is the "evaluation methodology" expected to be carried out by one > person or by a group of more than one persons? > > * What is the expected level of expertise (in accessibility, in web > technologies etc) of persons carrying out an evaluation? > > * Is the involvement of people with disabilities a necessary part of > carrying out an evaluation versus an improvement of the quality? > > * Are the individual test results binary (ie pass/fail) or a score > (discrete value, ratio, etc)? > > * How are these test results aggregated into an overall score (plain > count, weighted count, heuristics, etc)? > > * Is it useful to have a "confidence score" for the tests (for example > depending on the degree of subjectivity or "difficulty")? > > * Is it useful to have a "confidence score" for the aggregated result > (depending on how the evaluation is carried out)? > > > Feel free to chime in if you have particular thoughts on any of these. > > Best, > Shadi > > -- > Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ > Activity Lead, W3C/WAI International Program Office > Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group (ERT WG) > Research and Development Working Group (RDWG) > > This e-mail is confidential. 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