- From: Paul Walsh, Segala <paulwalsh@segala.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:40:21 +0100
- To: "'Carlos A Velasco'" <Carlos.Velasco@fit.fraunhofer.de>
- Cc: "'Carlos Iglesias'" <carlos.iglesias@fundacionctic.org>, "'Charles McCathieNevile'" <chaals@opera.com>, "'Johannes Koch'" <johannes.koch@fit.fraunhofer.de>, "'ERT group'" <public-wai-ert@w3.org>
-----Original Message----- From: public-wai-ert-request@w3.org [mailto:public-wai-ert- Paul Walsh, Segala wrote: > ... > > Warnings (in tools) shouldn't exist as they're pretty meaningless to > experienced testers and only give inexperienced 'users' the wrong impression > about the state of results. It's not a bad idea for EARL to support it as a > means of bookmarking stuff. Thus for my own understanding (since Shadi wants me to do some subclassing here ;-) ), let us say I have a Java compiler report on some compilation units: how do I report the compiler warnings? As a subclass of cannotTell? I don't think the definition fits at all: code compilers *do know* what a warning is. (... and we all know about the Bobby use case problem.) [PW] Sounds like a good use case Carlos. I'm in favour for EARL supporting the use case as I suggested in my earlier. I'm hoping however, that we can keep away from enabling tools to publish results that allow users to misinterpret them as passes. > Tools that give warnings and hence give users the wrong impression about the > compliance of a Web site, are a large part of the problem of inaccessible > sites claiming accessibility compliance. An extreme example is the overuse > of Bobby to demonstrate compliance with Triple-A. Only the seriously > inexperienced would do this. But it happens a lot, allowing Watchfire to > have healthy Christmas parties. Maybe their parties are not due to Bobby sales ;-) [PW] Yes I'm sure the other accessibility tools help in some way ;) Don't get me wrong, my teams use tools all the time, naturally. I just have an issue with 'Bobby'... it should be renamed to 'escaped convict'. Ok enough rambling! :) Paul regards, carlos -- Dr Carlos A Velasco - http://access.fit.fraunhofer.de/ Fraunhofer-Institut für Angewandte Informationstechnik FIT [Fraunhofer Institute for Applied Information Technology (FIT)] Barrierefreie Informations- und Kommunikationstechnologie für Alle Schloss Birlinghoven, D53757 Sankt Augustin (Germany) Tel: +49-2241-142609 Fax: +49-2241-1442609
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