- From: Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it>
- Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:07:45 +0200
- To: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
- CC: Carlos Iglesias <carlos.iglesias@fundacionctic.org>, Johannes Koch <johannes.koch@fit.fraunhofer.de>, public-wai-ert@w3.org
>> Johannes said
>>
>>> So the EARL report has to be created and linked to the logo.
>>> It will not be a link to some on-the-fly test like with
>>> HTML/CSS validation.
>>
>>
>> And so we will have a link to some static EARL report (probably
>> incomplete and not updated) which doesn't add nothing new compared to
>> the current static claim text.
The fact is that the EARL report is (necessarily) a static file, that
refers to a snapshot of the website.
But the same is true though for the posting of the conformance logo, or
any other sort of accessibility claim *about the website*. The only way
out is to claim something about the processes that govern the evolution
of the website (authoring, changing, publishing), which I think is
beyond our scope.
In my view the EARL report(s) is simply a more articulated way to
communicate that the website (at a certain moment in time, and a certain
set of pages and their contents -- i.e. time and space) is accessible to
a certain extent.
I agree completely with Chaals.
Best regards
Giorgio
Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:37:33 +1000, Carlos Iglesias
> <carlos.iglesias@fundacionctic.org> wrote:
>
>> Johannes said
>>
>>> So the EARL report has to be created and linked to the logo.
>>> It will not be a link to some on-the-fly test like with
>>> HTML/CSS validation.
>>
>>
>> And so we will have a link to some static EARL report (probably
>> incomplete and not updated) which doesn't add nothing new compared to
>> the current static claim text.
>
>
> In this worst case (crappy tools used stupidly) we will have a link to
> a report that once justified what was claimed. Even this is an
> improvement, as it lets us see the basis for the original claim. If we
> set a minimal set of properties for EARL (see my response to Giorgio)
> we would kow things like when the page apparently met some requirement,
> according to whom. Lots more than with the current use of a logo alone.
>
> Tools like AccMonitor, that cover very large websites monitoring many
> aspects daily, could readily produce daily updates for whatever is
> tested. This in fact showsone of the possible benefits of EARL - it
> become easy to analyse what is going wrong across a site, using output
> from a variety of QA tools (accessibility testing, guided manual
> testing, validation and other stuff). That isn't specific to EARL, it
> is the value of a standardised reporting language in general. Just that
> there aren't any with real adoption at the moment...
>
> cheers
>
> Chaals
>
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