Re: [Fwd: Betr.: Another Idea of presenting the report]

Hi, Eric/Wilco/all --

I like the concept -- very clean looking. A few
suggestions:

- "Pass" would be the more common opposite of "Fail"
in the Result column (rather than "Success" vs.
"Failure"). Actually, the principle says "Failed"
which would be opposite of "Passed". Probably want
to standardize -- I kind of like the last pair.

- The first column heading, "Term", really means
"Guideline/Success Criterion" in WCAG 2. If that's
too long, maybe just "Guideline/SC".

- Typo in Principle 1: should be "Perceivable".
Yes, I know, goofy English spelling.

- I understand the right and down arrows for expand
and contract, but am personally more used to seeing
[+] and [-] -- probably from PC, sorry :-) -- I'm
not sure if one or the other is used elsewhere on
the WC3 site, but if so, we should be consistent.
By the way, the expand/contract doesn't work in
IE, although it's fine in Mozilla.

Regards,

Tom

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:05:54 +0200
  Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org> wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Betr.: Another Idea of presenting the report
> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:41:33 +0200
>From: Wilco Fiers <wfiers@bartimeus.nl>
> To: <public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org>, <shadi@w3.org>
> 
> Hi Eric
> 
> We've had the discussion both on the use of color, the 
>positioning of navigation controls and the seperation of 
>tables before. I was under the impression that these 
>issues had been decided on, so I am somewhat surprised 
>you want to reopen them.
> 
> I like the neutral approach you've taken in your 
>example. It's reduces the amount of information the eye 
>would need to process. However I feel that your design is 
>a bit short on visual cues. The only way to tell the 
>different levels appart here is either by indentation or 
>by actually starting to read (which makes scanning 
>difficult). And the indentation here works alright, 
>however the WAI site this is going to be published on is 
>rather narrow so you might even be forced to reduce that.
> 
> The font you've chosen for this table is very easy to 
>read. I've not gotten around to that myself yet so I'll 
>have to see if it works as well for the final design.
> 
> I take it you designed this as an example? I would like 
>to add that jQuery relies rather heavilly on innerHTML, 
>which does not work well with screenreaders and isn't 
>permitted in WCAG 2. So I do not think we should be using 
>it.
> 
> Adding multiple tables to display the same set of data 
>is in my oppinion not a good idea. It makes navigating 
>through the report easier if you are looking for a 
>specific result but if your goal is to get an overview of 
>the evaluation this is probably more difficult.
> 
> Thanks for the example though. I will have a new version 
>of the table ready by next week.
> 
> Wilco
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Eric Eggert <w3c@yatil.de> 02-09-09 17:08 >>>
> Dear BAD Taskforce,
> 
> as I mentioned in previous phone calls, the report 
>format we’re
> currently discussing is too colourful to me, 
>additionally i found it
> quite hard to read (although this might be resolved in 
>future
> updates).
> 
> To add some constructive criticism to my argument, I’ve 
>created the
> following mockup:
> 
> http://bad.ericeggert.net/report/
> 
> What did I do?
> 
> - Rather than trying to tie all four principles into one 
>table, I’ve
> reduced complexity and split them up into four (actually 
>I’m only
> displaying one of the four tables).
> - I use clear and distinct headings for the Principles. 
>This should
> allow for better scanning and should help screen readers 
>also as we
> cannot indicate hierarchy in table rows semantically 
>(only visually
> and in descriptive text.
> - I moved the show contents control to the left and used 
>the metaphor
> I’m used to from mac os, which feels okay for me 
>although the sub
> points feel a little bit flat. this could be improved 
>visually.
> - I did leave out icons for a reason: they are often 
>unclear and don’t
> add anything to the already color coded table cells.
> - I merged the cell for the guideline number and title 
>to show their
> close relationship.
> 
> So, what do you think?
> 
> Regards,
> Eric
> 
> (Actually that should have been sent out a week ago, but 
>I used the
> wrong email. Sorry!)
> 
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