Re: FW: Does WCAG apply only to English (or the like), or does it aim to cover all languages?

Hi Makoto et al..
COGA has just started a subgroup to work with Internationalization to
address our part of this issue.
Would you like to be involved?
All the best

Lisa

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:26 PM George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com> wrote:

> Hi,
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> Potential agenda item.
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> *From:* MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 7, 2023 7:25 AM
> *To:* George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>; Avneesh Singh <
> avneesh.sg@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hiroshi Kawamura <hkawa@atdo.jp>; Makoto MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Fwd: Does WCAG apply only to English (or the like), or does it
> aim to cover all languages?
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>
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> George and Avneesh,
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>
>
> Hello.  I am writing this mail to request
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> DAISY to raise a concern about WCAG 2.2.
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> As I reported in the DAISY board meeting, there
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> is an open issue "Does WCAG apply only to
> <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/2680>
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> English (or the like), or  <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/2680>does
> it aim to cover all  <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/2680>
>
> languages? " <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/2680>, which is about
> WCAG 2.2.
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> Unfortunately, despite this open issue,
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> WCAG 2.2 became a Proposed Recommendation.
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> This is a failure of the horizontal review system.
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> WCAG people hope to introduce no changes to
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> 2.2 but they would like to address this issue in
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> future versions.  However, I strongly want to
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> address this issue in 2.2, since it is not at all
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> clear if any version beyond 2.2 becomes an
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> ISO/IEC standard.
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> I18N WG plans to propose tiny changes,
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> such as this one
> <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/2680#issuecomment-1661985386>
> proposed by Richard Ishida.
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> PLH suggested that some W3C member
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> AC rep should post a concern
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> on the Proposed Recommendation
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> survey.   Is it possible for DAISY
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> to raise a concern?
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>
>
> Regards,
>
> Makoto
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>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *r12a* <ishida@w3.org>
> Date: 2023年8月7日(月) 21:41
> Subject: Re: Does WCAG apply only to English (or the like), or does it aim
> to cover all languages?
> To: MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com>
> Cc: Yasuo Kida <kida@mac.com>, Atsushi Shimono (W3C Team) <atsushi@w3.org>,
> Fuqiao Xue <xfq@w3.org>, Addison Phillips <addisonI18N@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> hi Murata-san,
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> Addison and Fuqiao are currently working on this with Philippe le Hégaret
> and the WCAG folks to see whether a solution can be found.  In the
> meantime, PLH tells me that it would be useful if an AC rep posted their
> concern on the Proposed Recommendation survey.  This would make the issue
> more visible. Do you know someone who could do that?
>
> cheers,
> ri
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>
>
> MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com>
>
> 5 August 2023 at 04:23
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> Richard,
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> Thank you for the status update.  I am wondering if I
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> should raise a formal objection or ask JP members (and
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> even DAISY) to make comments on this issue in the
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> vote.  I hope that such actions are not needed but
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> I have these options in mind just in case.
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>
>
> Regards,
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> Makoto
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> --
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>  --
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> 慶應義塾大学政策・メディア研究科特任教授
>
> 村田 真
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> r12a <ishida@w3.org>
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> 4 August 2023 at 10:29
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> hi Murata-san,
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> I raised this issue at our weekly telecon yesterday, and Addison has
> already contacted Philippe about the process slip which allowed WCAG to go
> through the transition to PR with outstanding needs-resolution comments,
> and is also talking with the WCAG folks.  In the meantime, Fuqiao will
> review all the comments related to this topic and come up with a proposal
> for a way to move forward, which the i18n WG will discuss in next week's
> meeting, and then with the WCAG folks.
>
> Thanks for raising the visibility of this issue.
>
> ri
>
>
> MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com>
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> 3 August 2023 at 02:14
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> (Trying again since I used an obsolete address.)
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>
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> Richard,
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> It appears that the Accessibility Guidelines
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> WG does not intend to address this issue
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> before the publication of WCAG 2.2.
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> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/2680#issuecomment-1661985386
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> I do not understand the current W3C process
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> very well.  What does the I18N WG plan to do?
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> Should I contact Japanese, Chinese, and Korean
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> members of W3C?
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>
>
> Regards,
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> Makoto
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> --
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>  --
>
> 慶應義塾大学政策・メディア研究科特任教授
>
> 村田 真
>