Re: Agenda for the Process Call Wednesday 16 sept 7am PDT

Regrets, I'll be at the Web Machine Learning Workshop.

--Wendy

On 9/15/20 3:26 PM, David Singer wrote:
> Webex at <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-w3process/2019May/0000.html>
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> IRC is #w3process
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> (Partial?) Log of prior meeting at <https://www.w3.org/2020/08/26-w3process-minutes.html>
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> Usual meeting time: SECOND and FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 7AM PACIFIC. 
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> Overall purpose: moving ahead with our priorities
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> (Again hoping Ralph and Philippe can join for Registries at least)
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> 1) Assign scribe, etc.,
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> 2) Agenda bash. 
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> 3) (Non-)action on P2020 — I hear it is too late?
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> #449 renaming <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/449>
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> Did we catch this this year? Can we rename (team) Amended Recs to Team-amended? (Next year we intend to drop them anyway, see below.)
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> 4) Issues and PRs tagged agenda+.  Yes/No, take discussion to Github, please.
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> 4.1) Revising a Rec.: PLH asked it be kept open?
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> #428 Retire Amended RECs <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/428>
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> are we ready to Pull?
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> 4.2) What does the document status "discontinued" mean? #262
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> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/262
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> Do we have consensus to add the sentence and move on?
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> 4.3) Define "CEO" and "Team Decision" #438
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> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/438
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> Are we OK with the proposed conclusion?
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> 5) Registries
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> I felt, and I had comments from others, that what was drafted was rather long and appeared rather heavy-weight, and so I went away and read it all with a view of asking “can this be simpler and still do what we need done?”
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> The realization I had was that we can define that the status of a registry is the status of its defining recommendation. With this definition, registries become formal when their definition is a Rec. and are (pick a word) drafts or provisional or something like that until then.
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> My attempt at simplification is at <https://github.com/dwsinger/w3process/blob/registries/index.bs> i.e. the registries branch of a fork. I thought I was up to date when I started editing but now Github tells me I am not. 
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> Elika and Florian’s text simplified by introducing a simpler track for Registry Definitions with no CR phase (I think) as there is no implementation experience possible. However, I think that CR is the signal to the world ‘look at this, we think it complete and we intend to make a Rec out of it” and that question IDS appropriate for Registries. I also think that making the process document longer to simplify this case is a debatable optimization.
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> Similarly it can’t get exclusions as it contains nothing normative; but lawyers can work that out pretty rapidly.
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> Problems: My fork was not up to date before editing, shame on me.
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> Questions: 
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> 5.1) Can we go with a simple version of Registries in this direction, take this as a basis and direction and get the chair/editors to refine and align?
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> 5.2) Do we need the warning that the conformance of a Recommendation must not depend on a Registry? It shouldn’t depend on anything that gets changed without a formal consensus process, and Registries are only one possibility; but it’s an easy mistake to make.
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> 5.3) Name bike-shedding. My text uses Registry Definition for the Rec that defines the registry, and Registry Report for the table of values. I think we’re better off simply calling the values the W3C Registry; it’s what people mean when they say “that’s in the XXX Registry”.
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> As time permits, 
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> 6) Review of the Process2021 Milestone <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/milestone/6>
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> The usual closers:
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> 6) Next meeting. Nominally 14th Oct, I think, but that’s too far away AND I have a conflict (MPEG).
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> Can we meet the 7th Oct?
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> 7) Any other business.
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> David Singer
> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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Wendy Seltzer -- wseltzer@w3.org +1.617.715.4883 (office)
Strategy Lead and Counsel, World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
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Received on Tuesday, 15 September 2020 21:54:53 UTC