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DRAFT-1 agenda for the regular Process Call Wednesday 11th Sept 7am PDT

From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 10:33:51 -0700
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To: W3C Process CG <public-w3process@w3.org>



Webex at <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-w3process/2019May/0000.html>

IRC is #w3process

Log of prior meeting at <https://www.w3.org/2019/08/28-w3process-minutes.html>


Usual meeting time: SECOND and FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 7AM PACIFIC


I realize we might not get beyond agenda #3, but…

4 is the 2020 Milestone.  At some point we’ll have to admit we missed the milestone and decide what to do.
5 is new issues; one day we should triage newly arrived issues, and newly updated issues.
6 is stuff we assigned to someone, and at some point we might like to admit we got the wrong victim



1) Assign scribe, etc.,

2) Any needed updates and discussion on Process sessions at TPAC
		
Thursday:
15:00–15:40	Continuous Specification Development Process for W3C (fantasai, Invited Expert; Philippe Le Hégaret, W3C)

15:40–16:00	Process 2020 including registries (David Singer, Apple)

	Florian on P2020 at <https://florian.rivoal.net/talks/TPAC-2019/process-2020/>
	Registry slides attached (updates pending).




16:00–16:20	Director-free operation (Florian Rivoal, Invited Expert)



3) Editorials, and (Other) Pull Requests and Issues tagged Agenda+

3.1) Pull Requests: <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3AAgenda%2B>


Add Note about the flexibility of Consensus #323 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/323>, from issue <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/296>
Don't require documenting editorial changes since the previous CR #308 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/308>, from issue <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/307>
Clarify superseding #213 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/213/files>

3.2) Issues: 		<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AAgenda%2B+>

New, need to decide how to proceed: add references to "Open Stand" principles #325 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/325>

3.3) Editorials: we still need to make progress on the meaning of Discontinued, and clearer wording for transitions to superseded/obsolete. They are not tagged agenda+

What does the document status "discontinued" mean? #262 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/262>
provide clearer/common wording for transitions to Obsolete/Superseded status #141<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/141>

4) Review of 2020 milestone; who has the action, where are we going, what’s next? Do we expect/hope/intend to finish these in P2020 or should we start slipping them?

4.1) assigned to someone, please be prepared to give any needed updates (briefly), or if you are blocked by something, explain what it is so we can unblock you:
<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+assignee%3A*>

Wendy/Florian, can you update us on the the practice is going here, and whether we should formalize it?
Define charter review process to require addressing comments as in CR transitions #182 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/182>

otherwise I think they are in hand

4.2) unassigned; none.

5) new issues and updates. 

5.1) new since prior check: <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2019-03-13+>
There are many; I don’t intend to list them here. 

If we reduce to those not either (a) evergreen or (b) director-free, and not (c) Agenda+, we have 4: 
	<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2019-03-13+-label%3AEvergreen+-label%3AAgenda%2B+-label%3Adirector-free+>
#262 is above

What are the rules for where/how W3C publications are developed? #322 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/322>
Do we need a lighter-weight process for superseding when it's "obvious"? #324 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/324>
Community and Business Groups #326 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/326>


5.2) updated but not any of:
	Process2020 milestone 
	nor Evergreen
	nor director-free 
	nor Agenda+ 
	not assigned to the AB (Needs AB Feedback)
<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+updated%3A%3E2019-05-22+-label%3A%22Needs+AB+Feedback%22+-label%3AAgenda%2B+-milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+-label%3AEvergreen+-label%3Adirector-free+>

There are a number getting attention:
#326, #324, #322 are above as new issues
#262 #141 are above

define "independent" #167 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/167>
	— I think we need a task-force, or someone, to collate the issues and formulate the questions
Should the process include something about Testing? #157 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/157>
	— similarly a complex question which needs to balance a host of factors

Clarify the voting process #60 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/60>
	(the famous sentence; we have an inconsistent process document, which I find acutely embarrassing)
We need to consider equal-preference voting #115 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/115>
	(probably sitting with the AB)

6) If we have time, Assigned, but not on the 2020 milestone (cherry-pick, if people have updates or questions for us):

<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+assignee%3A*+-milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22>)

The usual closers:

7) Next meeting. formally Wed Sept 25th, week after TPAC. I assume we’ll meet and de-brief.

8) Any other business.






David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.





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