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Re: Evergreen Formal Objection handling (ESFO)

From: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 20:25:58 -0700
To: public-w3process@w3.org
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On 3/14/19 11:56 AM, Siegman, Tzviya wrote:
> I am a little confused by this discussion. We seem to be going in a direction that takes us far away 
> from W3C Process and intent. Chris and I were tasked with coming up with language about consensus, 
> but I am truly puzzled about what is so different about the ES process and the REC track process 
> when it comes to both consensus and FO.
> 
> My impression is that the way that most REC track WGs work when they are in the writing phase is not 
> dissimilar from ES. Editors have discretion to make changes to documents, but that writing should 
> reflect the intent and consensus of the WG. If there are concerns about changes to documents, even 
> merged pull requests, they are raised to the group and discussed. Pull Requests can be retracted. 
> That is why we have version control.
> 
> The process outlined by Chris from the WHATWG seems to ignore the concept of an active and 
> functional WG with a chair. I don’t think we need to add the Director overriding an FO. Why make 
> this a Director responsibility? WGs resolve issues like this on a regular basis today.
> 
> Can’t we simply state: Evergreen Standards are a part of the W3C Process and must follow the rules 
> of Consensus [1], including resolving objections.
> 
> [1] https://www.w3.org/2019/Process-20190301/#Consensus.

I just want to step in here to say I support Tzviya's point that the process
rules for editing an ER should not be any different from the process rules
currently operating for the REC track. I think the document here is way too
detailed about exactly who is responsible for what specific task in the WG.
The Process should be an overarching framework and principles, not a specific
workflow.

~fantasai
Received on Friday, 15 March 2019 03:26:27 UTC

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