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Re: DRAFT agenda for the regular Process Call Wednesday 14th August 7am PDT

From: Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 14:46:51 -0400
To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>, W3C Process CG <public-w3process@w3.org>
Message-ID: <f0dfcc96-8074-b705-fe5c-3e2b78dcd22a@w3.org>

On 8/27/2019 2:32 PM, David Singer wrote:
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> Webex at <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-w3process/2019May/0000.html>
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> IRC is #w3process
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> Log of prior meeting at <https://www.w3.org/2019/08/14-w3process-minutes.html>
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> Usual meeting time: SECOND and FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 7AM PACIFIC
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> I realize we might not get beyond agenda #3, but…
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> 4 is the 2020 Milestone.  At some point we’ll have to admit we missed the milestone and decide what to do.
> 5 is new issues; one day we should triage newly arrived issues, and newly updated issues.
> 6 is stuff we assigned to someone, and at some point we might like to admit we got the wrong victim
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> 1) Assign scribe, etc.,
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> 2) Preparing to present Process status at TPAC (not yet for approval):
> 	(20 minute session on Thursday, David S supported by Florian R, Process2020 including Registries)
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> 	It would be good to have a one/two slide summary of what else we’ve done (other than struggle with Evergreen and Registries).
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> 	David to give an update on the offline conversation with Elika and Florian, decide next steps

There is also a 40 minute session on Thursday of TPAC week about 
Continuous spec development (fantasai, PLH).

I think the Process CG deserves an update on the general flow:

  * General outline of Continuous spec development presentation
  * Relationship to AC poll on the patent policy
  * Progress on stakeholder check-in

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> 3) Editorials, and (Other) Pull Requests and Issues tagged Agenda+
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> 3.1) Pull Requests: <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3AAgenda%2B>
> — none as of time of writing the agenda
>     (There are 7 other Pull Requests <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pulls>)
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> 3.2) Issues: 		<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AAgenda%2B+>
> One is Ever* and the other is editorial, noted below
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> #271 Does the decision to allow the Evergreen state need to be made in the Charter? <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/271>
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> 3.3) Editorial (same two as last call):
> — decide whether to address or close (PLH action):
> #262 What does the document status "discontinued" mean? <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/262>
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> — Chris Wilson assigned at last call:
> #141 provide clearer/common wording for transitions to Obsolete/Superseded status <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/141>
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> (no other editorial updates exist at time of agenda creation):
> <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/labels/Type%3A%20editorial%20improvements>
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> 4) Review of 2020 milestone; who has the action, where are we going, what’s next? Do we expect/hope/intend to finish these in P2020 or should we start slipping them?
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> 4.1) assigned to someone, please be prepared to give any needed updates (briefly), or if you are blocked by something, explain what it is so we can unblock you:
> <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+assignee%3A*>
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> Florian:
> 	CR change documentation requirement should be for substantive changes only #307 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/307>
> 	TAG appointment should be via IETF style nomcom #230 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/230>
> 	Define charter review process to require addressing comments as in CR transitions #182 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/182>
> 	Substantive changes undefined for Charter and Process reviews #28 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/28>
> 	Add note to Process about flexibility of consensus #296 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/296>
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> Wendy, Ralph, Leonie:
> 	Enumerate the requirements for wide review #130 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/130>
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> David
> 	Process supporting "Living Standards"? (Evergreen) #79 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/79>
> 	We need a process for handling registries, APIs and other 'enumerations' #168 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/168>
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> 4.2) unassigned; we should probably admit we missed the milestone:
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> 	<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+no%3Aassignee>
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> 	Should the process include something about Testing? #157 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/157>
> 	define "independent" #167 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/167>
> 	process should clarify how Superseded state interacts with other maintenance processes (e.g., new versions, edited/amended recommendations) #183
> 			<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/183>
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> 5) new issues and updates.
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> 5.1) new since prior check: <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2019-03-13+>
> There are 52; I don’t intend to list them here.
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> If we reduce to those not either (a) evergreen or (b) director-free, we have 4:
> 	<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2019-03-13+-label%3AEvergreen+-label%3Adirector-free+>
> #307 is above
> #296 is above
> #262 is above
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> #264 Suggesting a change to horizontal reviews in the Process <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/264>
> — Leonie suggests we close in favor of #130 Enumerate the requirements for wide review <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/130>
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> 5.2) updated but not any of:
> 	Process2020 milestone
> 	nor Evergreen
> 	nor director-free <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+updated%3A%3E2019-05-22+-milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+-label%3AEvergreen+-label%3Adirector-free>
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> There are 6:
> #141 and #262 are above
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> Clarify the voting process #60 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/60>
> 	(the famous sentence; we have an inconsistent process document, which I find acutely embarrassing)
> We need to consider equal-preference voting #115 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/115>
> 	(probably sitting with the AB)
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> Allow AB to choose its own chair #223 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/223>
> 	— propose we leave with the AB for now, and await their instructions
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> First meeting of a WG allowed too soon #251 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/251>
> 	— I think we should summarize the considerations here and ask the AC to comment on this issue; can we find something fair, reasonable, and workable?
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> 6) If we have time, Assigned, but not on the 2020 milestone
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> <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+assignee%3A*+-milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22>)
> #223, #262 above
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> Florian:
> 	#299 Make it clear than any decision can be objected to <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/299>
> 	#260 Further automating transition requests <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/260>
> 	#254 [director-free] Gratuitous mentions of the Director <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/254>
> 	#281 objecting to chair appointments <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/281>
> 	#299 Make it clear than any decision can be objected to <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/299>
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> The usual closers:
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> 7) Next meeting. formally Wed Sept 11th
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> 8) Any other business.
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> David Singer
> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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