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DRAFT agenda for the regular Process Call Wednesday 14th August 7am PDT

From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 09:52:37 +0200
Message-id: <A90B2E10-8322-4EE1-9E3F-AFDD2752BFD0@apple.com>
To: W3C Process CG <public-w3process@w3.org>
[corrected subject, this IS the proposed agenda]

comments welcome, I am coming off a week of vacation and and a week of AB, so I am curiously fresh and unbiased (which is a euphemism for not yet prepared)



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Log of prior meeting at <https://www.w3.org/2019/07/24-w3process-minutes.html>


Usual meeting time: SECOND and FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 7AM PACIFIC


I realize we might not get beyond agenda #3, but…

4 is the 2020 Milestone.  At some point we’ll have to admit we missed the milestone and decide what to do.
5 is new issues; one day we should triage newly arrived issues, and newly updated issues.
6 is stuff we assigned to someone, and at some point we might like to admit we got the wrong victim



1) Assign scribe, etc.,

2) Preparing to present Process status at TPAC (not yet for approval): Jeff for the schedule, Florian update

3) Editorials, and (Other) Pull Requests and Issues tagged Agenda+

3.1) Editorial:
— decide whether to address or close (PLH action):
#262 What does the document status "discontinued" mean? <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/262>

— propose to close as Tantek seems to have lost interest:
#141 provide clearer/common wording for transitions to Obsolete/Superseded status <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/141>

(no other editorial updates exist at time of agenda creation):
<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/labels/Type%3A%20editorial%20improvements>

3.2) Pull Requests: <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3AAgenda%2B>
Florian #309 Define how Governing Documents other than the Process are revised <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/309>
Nigel    #213 Clarify superseding <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/213>

3.3) Issues: 		<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AAgenda%2B+>
The only one that’s not Ever* or Registry is
#307 CR change documentation requirement should be for substantive changes only <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/307>


#79 (Living Standards) and #168 (Registries) are in hand; should the label Agenda+ be removed?
#271 Does the decision to allow the Evergreen state need to be made in the Charter? <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/271> — is also Evergreen
#272 What is the difference between a PD and a WD? <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/272> — is also evergreen, but maybe we can agree there is none


4) Review of 2020 milestone; who has the action, where are we going, what’s next?

4.1) assigned to someone:
<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+assignee%3A*>
#79, #168 dealt with above

Florian, Natasha: Substantive changes undefined for Charter and Process reviews #28 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/28>
Florian: Define charter review process to require addressing comments as in CR transitions #182 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/182>
Florian: TAG appointment should be via IETF style nomcom #230 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/230>

Natasha: Should the process include something about Testing? #157 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/157>

Wendy, Ralph, Leonie: Enumerate the requirements for wide review #130 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/130>

Wendy: define "independent" #167 <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/167>

4.2) unassigned; we should admit we missed the milestone:
<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22+no%3Aassignee>
#307 dealt with above
#183 process should clarify how Superseded state interacts with other maintenance processes (e.g., new versions, edited/amended recommendations) <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/183>


5) new issues and updates. 

5.1) new since prior check: <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+created%3A%3E2019-03-13+>
There are 35; I don’t intend to list them here. 

If we reduce to those not either (a) evergreen or (b) director-free, we have 5:
#307 is above
#262 is above

#264 Suggesting a change to horizontal reviews in the Process <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/264>
— Leonie suggests we close in favor of #130 Enumerate the requirements for wide review <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/130>
#296 Add note to Process about flexibility of consensus <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/296>
— we have agreement in principle but we are struggling to find text that does not have other implications
#305 The process does not include any disposition for updating the Patent Policy <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/305>
— we have a more generalized pull request <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/309>

5.2) updated but not Process2020 milestone <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+updated%3A%3E2019-05-22+-milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22>

There are many, but if we take out director-free and evergreen, and issues above, we have very few left:
#251 First meeting of a WG allowed too soon <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/251>
#223 Allow AB to choose its own chair <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/223>
#115 We need to consider equal-preference voting <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/115>

6) If we have time, Assigned, but not on the 2020 milestone

<https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues?utf8=✓&q=is%3Aopen+assignee%3A*+-milestone%3A%22Process+2020%22>)

Florian #299 Make it clear than any decision can be objected to <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/299>
Florian #260 Further automating transition requests <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/260>

Wendy #274  Remove reference to stale document <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/274>

Ralph #120 Process should say how W3T can update NOTES <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/120>

Natasha #60 Clarify the voting process <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/60>

Jeff #10 Are W3C hosts members of W3C? <https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/10>


The usual closers:

7) Next meeting. formally Wed August 28th

8) Any other business.






David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Tuesday, 13 August 2019 07:53:06 UTC

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