Re: Action-140: Obsoleting a recommendation, one more minor fix

On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 15:45:03 +0200, Wendy Seltzer <wseltzer@w3.org> wrote:

> A question relating to the patent policy: Is "obsoleting" intended to
> leave patent commitments in-force?

Yes. That's a specific goal of having an "obsolete" Recommendation, for  
the reasons you outline below.

cheers

> I'd support that, to continue protect
> those who had implemented, even if we don't recommend further
> implementation or use.
>
> Note that the PP applies "as long as the Recommendation is in effect."
> (Sec. 5.9)
> https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#sec-Requirements
>
> So we might add, e.g. "an obsolete Recommendation is still deemed in
> effect, although it is not recommended for future implementation."
>
> Thanks,
> --Wendy
>
> On 06/23/2016 08:01 AM, David Singer wrote:
>> The AB realized that we might, just possibly, make a mistake and  
>> obsolete something that we weren’t aware is actively used; or we might  
>> obsolete something and then later it starts getting traction and being  
>> used. It should be possible to reverse obsoletion, though we hope and  
>> expect that this will be rare.
>>
>> The attached is a revision which adds the sentence:
>>
>> "Obsoletion may be reversed, using the same process as for obsoleting a  
>> Recommendation. “
>>
>> and then at the start of the two options, add that, viz.:
>>
>> "The announcement:
>>
>> must indicate that this is a Proposal to Rescind, or a proposal to  
>> Obsolete, or a proposal to reverse Obsoletion of, a Recommendation;”
>>
>> Yes, I am aware that other parts of the text could be made more complex  
>> and more explicit about reversal, but I don’t think it’s worth it: we  
>> can surely work out what the intent of the text is in the rare case of  
>> reversal.
>>
>> Yes, I am aware that we might end up with a case where, with the new  
>> knowledge, a decision to Obsolete would not pass, but the decision to  
>> reverse obsoletion also does not pass.  However, I think making the  
>> reversal process “reversal happens if it can be shown that obsoletion  
>> would have failed” is too complex to describe easily. I hope the  
>> community ‘does the right thing’ and we don’t get into this case.
>>
>>
>>
>> This body part will be downloaded on demand.
>>
>
>


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