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RE: Action-140: Obsoleting a recommendation, one more minor fix

From: GALINDO Virginie <Virginie.Galindo@gemalto.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 13:52:29 +0000
To: Wendy Seltzer <wseltzer@w3.org>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>, "W3C Advisory Board" <ab@w3.org>, Revising W3C Process Community Group <public-w3process@w3.org>
Message-ID: <540E99C53248CE468F6F7702588ABA2A0146C9AAF0@A1GTOEMBXV005.gto.a3c.atos.net>
+1 to clarify patent protection maintenance.
Virginie

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Seltzer [mailto:wseltzer@w3.org]
Sent: mercredi 6 juillet 2016 15:45
To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>; W3C Advisory Board <ab@w3.org>; Revising W3C Process Community Group <public-w3process@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Action-140: Obsoleting a recommendation, one more minor fix

A question relating to the patent policy: Is "obsoleting" intended to leave patent commitments in-force? I'd support that, to continue protect those who had implemented, even if we don't recommend further implementation or use.

Note that the PP applies "as long as the Recommendation is in effect."
(Sec. 5.9)
https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#sec-Requirements


So we might add, e.g. "an obsolete Recommendation is still deemed in effect, although it is not recommended for future implementation."

Thanks,
--Wendy

On 06/23/2016 08:01 AM, David Singer wrote:
> The AB realized that we might, just possibly, make a mistake and obsolete something that we weren’t aware is actively used; or we might obsolete something and then later it starts getting traction and being used. It should be possible to reverse obsoletion, though we hope and expect that this will be rare.
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> The attached is a revision which adds the sentence:
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> "Obsoletion may be reversed, using the same process as for obsoleting
> a Recommendation. “
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> and then at the start of the two options, add that, viz.:
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> "The announcement:
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> must indicate that this is a Proposal to Rescind, or a proposal to Obsolete, or a proposal to reverse Obsoletion of, a Recommendation;”
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> Yes, I am aware that other parts of the text could be made more complex and more explicit about reversal, but I don’t think it’s worth it: we can surely work out what the intent of the text is in the rare case of reversal.
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> Yes, I am aware that we might end up with a case where, with the new knowledge, a decision to Obsolete would not pass, but the decision to reverse obsoletion also does not pass.  However, I think making the reversal process “reversal happens if it can be shown that obsoletion would have failed” is too complex to describe easily. I hope the community ‘does the right thing’ and we don’t get into this case.
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> This body part will be downloaded on demand.
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