- From: Brian Kardell <bkardell@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:10:02 -0400
- To: public-w3process@w3.org
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I'm forking this to talk about elections, not a voting system. I'm willing to bet money that the system for voting, has not historically been a huge problem. I'm entirely supportive of reforming it because there are good theoretical reasons to do so - if elections were clicking and important and less visibly about significantly different paths, they could make a big difference. My assertion is, simply that they probably haven't. It should be easy for W3C to more or less verify this. Further beneficial though - If some kind of data were public (or at least made available to those elected) it would help govern the work as well. BUT - I propose instead that the primary problem with W3C elections is much simpler: Lack participation/interest/engagement. I see some of "concern" being expressed that somehow an what's happening in the past few cycles of elections is harmful and might (or maybe the claim is 'has'?) lead to something undemocratic, a shut out of voices or that its results are no better than random selection and some comments about 'feeling pressure' and 'campaign machines', or that something 'unfair' is happening. I don't know that this is representing Charles' statements as he intends them -- in fact, I think it's not his thrust (but feel free to correct me if I am wrong) but it's easy to see how it could be read this way.. Just the thought of that dismays me so much that I'm going to go ahead and address it. There are only a few hundred ACs, and for a lot of them, the truth is that it's just a formality... In some cases, the AC is the AC for legal reasons and the AC isn't actually so much involved. In many cases, it wouldn't even surprise me if they didn't even know there was an election. The net result is that you wind up with a very small group of people from a small number of orgs who frequently nominate and who always vote. Is it shocking in some way that they tend to nominate someone they know? I don't think so. Is it statistically more likely that all things being equal, they will vote for someone that they know over someone that they don't? And who are they more likely to know? Again, it seems obvious that you will trend toward the same pool of orgs/class of nominees. If the groups don't do something important, they seem irrelevant, which furthers the problem. And, of course, while these groups have a potential to have a lot of impact, they are almost totally unknown to the world outside the land of ACs. Likewise, for AB at least, it's not a compelling sort of role that all who are interested in W3C would do well in - just finding good candidates is hard. All of these things combine and exacerbate one another... What we saw until a year and a half ago seems to me the inevitable result. To paraphrase Jefferson: ignorance/apathy and democracy are incompatible. Recently, some of us who are not ACs (indeed, many of us are not even members) have collaborated on a number of things we think are important to the healthy future of the Web - and what that means to the W3C if the W3C is to play the role - and how it can help. Unsurprisingly to me, some of us have tried really hard - to spark interest and fan the flames of democracy so that our Web is actually somehow representative of things that we care about. I was not a member of the W3C when all of this started, but I was active to the extent that I could be without someone writing a check or inviting me on. I campaigned for people. I talked to them about what was important to me and people I know. I wrote about why I thought it was important, and they did to. I emailed people that I knew (personally, not via mass mailings) and tried to explain why I thought this was important to the Web at large and, in some cases, to their org too. As I reached out more - I didn't have access to any list - I used google (if your twitter profile or email signature says "AC Rep for XYZ" it's hardly private knowledge) and asked people that I know `hey do you know who the rep for X is`. I have myself, and I have encouraged others to reach out by whatever means I could, to anyone who might be sympathetic - for the most part, not the traditional/major players - and I'm looking for diversity of representation too. Here is the crux though: Participation, collaboration and passion are not evils - they are necessary. They are part of the solution. A preferential voting system will not help this problem - it also requires participation, information, debate, discussion and, ultimately turnout - and progress requires participation and ability to get general consensus on what's important. Elections are a healthy time for debate, reflection, education and aim setting. We need more campaigning, visibility, passion, participation and debate in our elections, IMO, not less - and unless someone convinces me otherwise, please know that my own efforts to blog, reach out to those I know and encourage them do to the same - to open up the W3C participation model and promote involvement, help give developers a voice and to do whatever I can to build consensus and get folks elected that: a) stand for something I believe in and b) that I believe can either get it done and can make the difference in aiding the rest of the group to get things done will remain unchanged. So, if you think someone should be elected - I encourage you to make your best case... I'll be doing the same. This is just healthy. -- Brian Kardell :: @briankardell :: hitchjs.com
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