Re: New chapter 7 draft

On 2/19/2014 12:01 PM, Stephen Zilles wrote:
> Jeff,
> There is no such thing as a "revised CR". There is only republication 
> of an existing CR. With that a new Exclusion Announcement is likely so 
> people watching the spec will be appraised of the update. The AV 
> Review opens with the initial CR publication and does not end until N 
> days after the spec becomes a PR. So there is no need, from a purely 
> formal viewpoint, to "restart" CR. If your issue is that the changes 
> need to be announced, that makes sense to me, but when there is a Call 
> for Exclusions that should suffice as the announcement.

The conclusion that I reached with Chaals is that the Director must 
announce this re-publication.

>
> With respect to point 2, I read the statement as saying "at risk" 
> features can be dropped on entry to PR, but it could be more clearly 
> stated.

Yes.  I agree that it should be more clearly stated.  As this is 
editorial, I leave it in Chaals' able hands.

>
> Steve Z
> I will be out of touch from 2/20 till 3/1.
> /Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT&T/
>
>
> -----Original message-----
>
>     *From: *Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>*
>     To: *Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>,
>     "public-w3process@w3.org" <public-w3process@w3.org>*
>     Sent: *Tue, Feb 18, 2014 19:34:26 GMT+00:00*
>     Subject: *Re: New chapter 7 draft
>
>     Chaals,
>
>     I don't think that my two previous email review comments have been
>     addressed.
>
>     1. I still see confusion between 7.4 CR and 7.4.1 Revising a CR.  In
>     7.4.1 Revising a CR, there is no listed requirement for the
>     Director to
>     announce the publication and begin an AC review.  But I assume we
>     would
>     want that to happen since it is essentially a new CR document.
>
>     Perhaps it is implied because we are implying (in 7.4.1) that it is a
>     revised CR - hence it must go through CR processing. But I don't
>     think
>     it is clear.  And it is further muddled because we give the WG 5
>     bulleted actions to accomplish in 7.4.1 - rather than finding a
>     way to
>     collapse them into 7.4.
>
>     2. Once a document is in PR, I would think that "at risk" features
>     can
>     no longer be dropped.  But 7.5 seems to say that we still MAY remove
>     features.
>
>     Jeff
>
>     On 2/18/2014 12:53 PM, Charles McCathie Nevile wrote:
>     > Hi folks, there is a new chapter 7 draft dated 18 February -
>     > https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/AB/raw-file/c78d42c08b34/tr.html
>     >
>     > The changes since the last draft are fairly minor, covering some
>     > simplification of the discussion of Notes, as per the thread
>     following
>     >
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-w3process/2014Feb/0051.html
>
>     > and a couple of further clarifications as per the thread following
>     >
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-w3process/2014Feb/0008.html
>
>     > (which I had forgotten, since they had been half-addressed already)
>     >
>     > Obviously, review is better in the later draft, but for most
>     purposes
>     > review of the 14 February draft will be unaffected.
>     >
>     > The details of changes, as always, are at
>     https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/AB/ <https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/AB/>
>     >
>     > cheers
>     >
>     > Chaals
>     >
>
>