- From: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
- Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 21:20:19 -0700
- To: "Jeff Jaffe" <jeff@w3.org>
- Cc: "public-w3process@w3.org" <public-w3process@w3.org>
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:12:33 -0700, Charles McCathie Nevile
<chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 01:27:28 +0500, Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Charles,
>>
>> I haven't gotten to the review of the entire revised Chapter 7, but
>> in-line are some suggestions on the wide review piece.
>
> Thanks...
>
>> On 7/8/2013 8:08 AM, Charles McCathie Nevile wrote:
>>> close ACTION-1
>>>
>>> After a discussion, I propose to add the following text to my proposal
>>> for chapter 7, as section 7.2.2
>>>
>>> [[[
>>> The requirements for wide review are not precisely defined by the
>>> process.
>>
>> insert: However, the general objective is to ensure that the entire set
>> of stakeholders of the Web community, including the general public,
>> have had adequate notice of the progress of the Working Group and
>> thereby an opportunity to comment on the specification.
>
> I think the "However" is unnecessary but I like the rest. Unless
> somebody screams I expect to add it.
and done.
> [...]
>>> A Working Group could present evidence that wide review has been
>>> received, irrespective of solicitation. But it is important to note
>>> that many detailed reviews is
>>
>> s/is/are/
>
> no, but s/that/that receiving/
done
>>> not necessarily the same as wide review, since it
>>
>> s/it/they/
>
> yep
done
>>> may only represent comment from a small segment of the relevant
>>> stakeholder community.
>>> ]]]
>>>
>>> The goal is to set some expectations for what kind of review needs to
>>> occur, without constraining the definition to the point that invites
>>> "process-lawyering"...
>>
>> I agree with this goal. But I also think that it would be helpful to
>> give a specific example of what is generally viewed as sufficient,
>> since otherwise it may be confusing for W3C novices. For example, you
>> can add:
>>
>> "While the W3C Process does not constrain the definition of getting
>> public review, here is one example of what would be sufficient. If the
>> Working Group determines that they have completed their work and are
>> ready to enter LCCR, they could publicly announce that they intend to
>> enter LCCR in four weeks and indicate to other Working Groups and the
>> public that any additional comments should be provided within that
>> time. Such a formal method might not be needed for a group that
>> generally has received wide review for their spec, but it is a
>> safe-harbor method for those groups that have not adequately engaged
>> outside of their group."
>
> Yep. I expect not to use that exact text, but big chunks of it at least.
I added the statement that many working groups do this in the middle of
the paragraph... do you think that's enough?
cheers
Chaals
> In particular, I really don't like the final clause.
>
> cheers
>
> Chaals
>
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