Re: Updated README.md for the smart voice agent Workshop

Hi Kazuyuki,Thank you for your prompt response.I think the mentioning of smart cars is fine as you have it.Regarding the whitespace, I noticed that this always happens, if there are nested <ul>-lists. The issue happens afterwards.Maybe, we should try to remove the whitespace in the CSS for that case?Best regards,Dirk
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org> Datum: 23.05.25  22:19  (GMT+01:00) An: Dirk Schnelle-Walka <dirk@switch-consulting.de> Cc: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>, public-voiceinteraction@w3.org Betreff: Re: Updated README.md for the smart voice agent Workshop On Fri, 23 May 2025 23:03:59 +0900,Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:> > [1  <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>]> [2  <text/html; UTF-8 (8bit)>]> Thank you Kazuyuki,> > regarding> >  Connected cars => Voice agents in connected cars> > Do we want to have it back? We may also edit the index.html.Ah, sorry. My point was rather:* As mentioned during the CG call on April 23, got a comment from the  Strategy Team to remove the term of "Connected cars".* So I had changed "Connected cars" to "Smart cars".* Also I merged the line of "Voice agents in Smart cars" with  the line of "Smart homes, smart factories, and smart cities".(within the index.html).> There is also a bit of whitespace after> > > Lack of accountability: Identifying the root cause of errors in an LLM’s> predictions can be challenging.I think the width of the line is specifid by CSS, so we can make thewhitespace line narrower if we want.> We may want to adapt the HTML and correct the list item tags.Yes, let's talk about the HTML style as well :)> Additionally, we need to continue our discussion regarding> > The workshop is free, although you will need to email a brief proposal. Please> see the @@@information for speakers@@@ for detail.Right.Thanks,Kazuyuki> Dirk> > On 23/05/2025 08:54, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote:> >  Hi Dirk,> > Thanks a lot for your edit!> > Based on your changes to README.md at:>   https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/blob/main/README.md> > I created the following two PRs:> * https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/pull/1> * https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/pull/2> (then merged them :)> > and have updated the index.html at:>   https://w3c.github.io/smartagents-workshop/> > Please note your change:>   Connected cars => Voice agents in connected cars> within README.md was not applied, because there was no> "Connected cars" within index.html any more.> > Thanks,> > Kazuyuki> > > On Fri, 23 May 2025 04:01:24 +0900,> Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:> >  > [1  <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>]> [2  <text/html; utf-8 (base64)>]> Hi everyone, hi Debbie and Kazuyuki,> > I made some first changes to https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop to> focus more on voice than it is done at> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/507.> > I also reviewed the current ideas for the other workshop AI Agents & the Web.> > The AI Agents & the Web proposal for a W3C workshop focuses on user-friendly> smart agents, but it does not focus specifically on voice agents. Instead, it has a> broader scope that includes:> > - Agent-user interaction models (text, GUI, voice, multimodal)> - Agent-agent interaction and orchestration> - Data portability and user control> - Privacy, security, and trust> - Standardization needs and gaps> > While voice is mentioned as one possible modality, it's not the central theme.> The goal is to discuss smart agents more generally ― including conversational,> embodied, or software-based agents ― and how to make them user-friendly and> interoperable within the Web ecosystem.> > In contrast, the Smart Voice Agents Workshop (after my edits) does place more> emphasis on voice agents including references to speech interfaces and the> interaction between users and services via voice.> > So in summary:> > - Workshop AI Agents & the Web: Broad focus on smart agents; voice is just one> aspect.> - Workshop Smart Voice Agents : More specifically oriented toward voice agents> and their web integration.> > So, I see a completely different focus of these two, although they share some> topics. I do not see a problem with that. In case, there are further concerns from> the other workshop,  I would try to argue removing the topic of voice interaction> from the other workshop. > > Please,  feel encouraged to comment on my thoughts.> > I will take and break and review my edits in in a few days.> Dirk