RE: [Proposal] schema:OnlineCourse

Hi.

It would be great to have news-courses-actions linkage: I want read news,
join/start an action and learn on the issue covered.

Not sure if the https://sites.google.com/site/moocontology/onlinecourse now
has property for this.

Or is it Keyword?

Then how about a taxonomy for the linkage?

Any ideas?

Thank you.

Best regards,
Dmytro Potekhin
 On Oct 23, 2014 11:41 AM, "Barker, Phil" <Phil.Barker@hw.ac.uk> wrote:

>  Hello.  This looks interesting. We have discussed how to treat courses
> occasionally within the LRMI (Learning Resource Metadata Initiative, [1])..
> I would like to encourage you to send a message to that list to see what
> people there think of it.
>
>  Some thoughts of my own:
> - it might be worth distinguishing between the generic "work" from
> particular instances of a course. For example: MIT's "Physics 1, Classical
> Mechanics" which runs every year with slight variations and of which there
> is a version on MITOCW. Or an example closer to my home, Heriot-Watt's  BSc
> programme in Information Systems, which is what Heriot-Watt University
> advertises each year and what students apply for enrollment in is different
> from the course that any specific student takes (it varies from year to
> year, students take options). It might be worth thinking about this, I
> doubt it would be worth getting too wrapped up in it--I can provide
> examples of what would happen if you did get too wrapped up in it. (Niklas,
> if you were suggesting this as the distinction between course as
> CreativeWork and course as Event, I don't think that quite captures it: a
> distance learning course / correspondence course isn't really an Event i.e.
> something "happening at a certain time and location", and also see next
> point.) Some of the current specifications for course advertising capture
> this, e.g. XCRI-CAP [2], MLO-AD [3]
>
>  - a course is essentially a collection of things (events and creative
> works, mostly; in the case of a programme, other courses).  Maybe your
> event property could be replaced with or modeled on something similar to
> the hasPart property of CreativeWorks. Required reading, individual units
> of online material could be specified, videos, activities, assignments,
> exams etc for online and face-to-face course could all be parts that a
> course has.
>
>  - syllabus. Probably better to aloow this to be a CreativeWork. They
> often live as separate documents and have life cycles all of their own.
>
>  - requirements. educationalAlignment can be used with alignmentType of
> "requires"
>
>  Hope this helps, I'll send a message to the LRMI list to make them aware
> of this work, you would be welcome to discuss this work there.
>
>  Best regards, Phil
>
>  1. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lrmi
> 2. http://www.xcri.co.uk/index.php
> 3. http://www.cen-wslt.din.de/sixcms_upload/media/3378/CWA16132.pdf
>
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> *From:* GUANGYUAN PIAO [parklize@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 23 October 2014 00:06
> *To:* Wallis,Richard
> *Cc:* Niklas Lindström; Aaron Bradley; <public-vocabs@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Proposal] schema:OnlineCourse
>
>    Hi,
>
>  Updated the current proposal to the Brainstorming session on WebSchemas
> Wiki page. <https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/SchemaDotOrgProposals>
>
>  CreativeWork->Course->OnlineCourse
> OnlineCourse-> event -> EducationEvent
>
>  The revised version and example are available:
> Course: https://sites.google.com/site/moocontology/home
>  Example for Coursera's course:
> https://sites.google.com/site/moocontology/examples
>
>  All feedback will be appreciated!!
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:07 AM, GUANGYUAN PIAO <parklize@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks for information, it's been a big help.
>>
>>  I totally agree with the generalized "Course" type and the "Event"
>> approach.
>>
>>  After catching up the preliminary discussion
>> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2014Feb/0131.html>
>> that Aaron mentions, I think reusing EducationEvent like you did in Edumine
>> website is good approach.
>>
>>  I revised type to CreativeWork > Course > OnlineCourse, and reuse the
>> event property which is already exist in schema.org to EducationEvent.
>>
>>  OnlineCourse-> event -> EducationEvent
>>
>>  The revised version and example are available:
>> Course: https://sites.google.com/site/moocontology/home
>>  Example for Coursera's course:
>> https://sites.google.com/site/moocontology/examples
>>
>>  Any feedback is welcome!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Wallis,Richard <Richard.Wallis@oclc.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 14 Oct 2014, at 19:43, Niklas Lindström <lindstream@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>>  Just a note (of what I've encountered when working with educational
>>> data): there usually are two things: Course < CreativeWork, and CourseEvent
>>> < Event; the former being the structure and body of material, the latter
>>> one of possibly many enactments in time of this structure and material.
>>>
>>>
>>>  +1
>>>
>>>  If we are going to be looking at Course, which is an obvious gap at
>>> the moment, we should ensure we cover the full spectrum from brick & mortar
>>> degree courses, through courses of driving lessons, to MOOCs and other
>>> online education and self-improvement courses.
>>>
>>>  At the bricks & motor end of the spectrum, some established work would
>>> be worth looking at, for its simplicity and integration with the
>>> organisational structure of the educational organisation (university) that
>>> is responsible for it.  I am referring to AIISO <
>>> http://vocab.org/aiiso/schema>:
>>>
>>>  Course: A Course is a KnowledgeGrouping that represents a cohesive
>>> collection of educational material referred to by the owning organization
>>> as a course.
>>>
>>>  KnowledgeGrouping : A KnowledgeGrouping represents a collection of
>>> resources, learning objectives, timetables, and other materials. The more
>>> specific subclasses of Subject, Programme, Course and Module are preferred.
>>>
>>>
>>>  ~Richard
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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