- From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:37:59 +0200
- CC: "<public-vocabs@w3.org>" <public-vocabs@w3.org>, Robina Clayphan <Robina.Clayphan@kb.nl>
On 6/18/14 3:26 PM, Dan Brickley wrote: > On 18 June 2014 14:15, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote: >> Hi Dan, >> >> As you know already, I like very much that there's a license property. It >> will be very useful for us at Europeana! >> >> My colleague Robina however spotted that the value expected for >> http://www.schema.org/license is CreativeWork, URL >> And the doc says "A license document that applies to this content, typically >> indicated by URL." >> >> Does this include *real* licenses URIs like >> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ >> ? > > Like in the last example in http://schema.org/WebPage ? :) > > (I realise readers don't know what is in each example 'tab' until they > look... maybe we could improve that) Yes, precisely as in that example! Sorry I had not thought of looking at this WebPage to find an example. I'm not put back by the tabs, btw. > >> I know this touches on a debate on 'real things vs URLs' that has surfaced >> on the list quite a lot. I'm aware schema.org has actually quite a >> permissive stance about this, and don't want to resurrect the debate - if >> just because the word "license" itself may refer to the higher-level a set >> of requests/permissions, or the document that records it. >> I just wanted to check that it was alright to use CC license URIs directly >> with schema:license! > > CC is a great use of this property. Schema.org doesn't attempt to > model in detail what those documents say or mean, but the property > gives a place to go read to find out more. This might be particularly > useful for famous urls like CC licenses. Yes. Note again that I'm not asking schema.org to model them in more detail (at least not in this iteration ;-) ). Just checking it was alright to use them as objects of schema:license! Cheers, Antoine > > Dan > >> Actually even erring on the ontological side of things I'll find it alright >> to consider the license-as-agreement as a CreativeWork, too, which would >> alleviate all doubts. Unless there are plans to introduce classes like >> 'Contract' later in schema.org, which would jeopardize this soft stance to >> what licenses are. I believe/hope it's not the case yet! >> >> Best, >> >> Antoine >> >> -------- >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote: >> >> There is a temporary review build of schema.org v1.6 for your consideration. >> >> The main improvement is the addition of a minimalistic Role mechanism, >> alongside other >> navigation and bug fixes. >> >> Draft release notes copied below. See also >> https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/document/d/1RSe6zr--DuIk9AzJyuMfOzw4_kc-DwPbgx2IH9LiCzs/edit?disco=AAAAAJnB6Ew# >> for background on the Role design. >> >> Careful schema.org watchers might notice that the approach to Role >> here is different (hopefully >> similar) to our last "we think we're done" design. This approach >> introduces less additional vocabulary, and can be extended later. For >> now we believe it addresses important use cases that arise when >> describing situations from sports and music. The draft site includes >> several >> JSON-LD examples to illustrate the approach. >> >> Please take a look. There are a few ongoing improvements, but we hope >> to make these changes live in the near future. The test build is >> available currently at http://sdopending.appspot.com/ therefore useful >> entry points mentioned below include... >> >> http://sdopending.appspot.com/Role >> http://sdopending.appspot.com/OrganizationRole >> http://sdopending.appspot.com/PerformanceRole >> http://sdopending.appspot.com/startTime >> http://sdopending.appspot.com/endTime >> http://sdopending.appspot.com/Question >> http://sdopending.appspot.com/TheaterEvent >> http://sdopending.appspot.com/acceptedAnswer >> http://sdopending.appspot.com/object etc. >> >> Note that these changes are all just on the test site, so change >> 'schema.org' to '/sdopending.appspot.com' in the notes below to find >> the release candidate version. >> >> cheers, >> >> Dan (for schema.org) >> >> ------------------------- >> >> Changes in 1.6 (draft release notes) >> >> Vocabulary >> >> 1) Role >> >> * Added a Role type, for describing "additional information about a >> relationship or property." >> * Added two sub-types of Role, OrganizationRole and PerformanceRole. >> * Added a property that applies to each ('namedPosition', >> 'characterName' respectively). >> >> 2) license >> >> * Added a 'license' property, by popular demand. Will add an example >> based on something like >> http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-06-linear-algebra-spring-2010/video-lectures/lecture-12-graphs-networks-incidence-matrices/ >> >> Errata and site improvements >> >> 3) Tidied the description of properties that are used primarily within >> schema.org, in definitions and site navigation. >> >> * http://sdopending.appspot.com/Property and >> http://sdopending.appspot.com/Class should have been marked as >> Intangible. >> * documented 'supercededBy', "Relates a property to one that supercedes it." >> * documented 'inverseOf', "Relates a property to a property that is its >> inverse. >> >> Inverse properties relate the same pairs of items to each other, but >> in reversed direction. For example, >> the 'alumni' and 'alumniOf' properties are inverseOf each other. Some >> properties don't have explicit >> inverses; in these situations RDFa and JSON-LD syntax for reverse >> properties can be used." >> >> >> 4) typo in 'diet' property: >> - <span property="rdfs:comment">A sub property of instrument. The >> died used in this action.</span> >> + <span property="rdfs:comment">A sub property of instrument. >> The diet used in this action.</span> >> (thanks, Dan Scott) >> >> 5) QAPage >> >> Removed unnecessary QAPage type from the main Question/Answer example, >> as it wasn't adding anything useful. >> We encourage feedback on the value of this type, which can be used to >> describe pages that bundle a Question with >> its Answer(s). >> >> Added JSON-LD example for Question/Answer vocabulary. >> >> >> 5) defaultValue's definition had 'Literal' instead of 'Text'. >> >> https://github.com/rvguha/schemaorg/pull/33/commits >> >> (yes, we're on Github now, if you read this far; more on that later). >> >> Reported by Simon Spero, fix prepared by Stephane Corlosquet. >> Mistaken use of Literal in definition of default value property. >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2014May/0193.html >> >> - <span>Range: <a property="http://schema.org/rangeIncludes" >> href="http://schema.org/Literal">Literal</a></span> >> + <span>Range: <a property="http://schema.org/rangeIncludes" >> href="http://schema.org/Text">Text</a></span> >> >> >> 6) Sub-property (rdfs:subPropertyOf) >> >> We note that sometimes properties have a sub-property / super-property >> relationship. >> >> Added assertions where this is the case, for the following pairs: >> >> (the 1st is sub-property, i.e. the more specific; 2nd url is >> super-property, i.e. the more general) >> >> <http://schema.org/acceptedAnswer> <http://schema.org/suggestedAnswer> >> <http://schema.org/borrower> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/buyer> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/candidate> <http://schema.org/object> >> <http://schema.org/collection> <http://schema.org/object> >> <http://schema.org/course> <http://schema.org/location> >> <http://schema.org/deliveryMethod> <http://schema.org/instrument> >> <http://schema.org/diet> <http://schema.org/instrument> >> <http://schema.org/distance> <http://schema.org/asset> >> <http://schema.org/endorsee> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/entertainmentBusiness> <http://schema.org/location> >> <http://schema.org/exercisePlan> <http://schema.org/instrument> >> <http://schema.org/followee> <http://schema.org/object> >> <http://schema.org/foodEstablishment> <http://schema.org/location> >> <http://schema.org/foodEvent> <http://schema.org/location> >> <http://schema.org/fromLocation> <http://schema.org/location> >> <http://schema.org/landlord> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/language> <http://schema.org/instrument> >> <http://schema.org/lender> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/loser> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/opponent> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/option> <http://schema.org/object> >> <http://schema.org/query> <http://schema.org/instrument> >> <http://schema.org/question> <http://schema.org/object> >> <http://schema.org/realEstateAgent> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/recipe> <http://schema.org/instrument> >> <http://schema.org/recipient> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/replacee> <http://schema.org/object> >> <http://schema.org/replacer> <http://schema.org/object> >> <http://schema.org/resultReview> <http://schema.org/result> >> <http://schema.org/sender> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/sportsActivityLocation> <http://schema.org/location> >> <http://schema.org/sportsEvent> <http://schema.org/location> >> <http://schema.org/sportsTeam> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/toLocation> <http://schema.org/location> >> <http://schema.org/vendor> <http://schema.org/participant> >> <http://schema.org/winner> <http://schema.org/participant> >> >> >> Note: during this process, we re-evaluated >> http://schema.org/musicGroupMember and >> http://schema.org/member - and decided that the latter addresses all use >> cases. >> Marked 'musicGroupMember' as superceded by 'member'. Further cleanup >> is needed around the >> expected types for 'member' and 'memberOf'. >> >> >> 5. Inverse Properties >> >> We note that sometimes properties have an inverse relationship. We >> have added supporting vocabulary >> and site-generation code to support this, and have documented it for >> the case of the alumni/alumniOf pair. >> >> We encourage suggestions for other pairs of schema.org properties that >> are inverses. >> >> >> 6. TheatreEvent >> >> update TheatreEvent with improved example(s). Microdata/RDFa also updated. >> >> >> 7. Site Navigation >> >> Per-property pages have inverses, super/sub properties, and tooltips >> on mouseover. Need to add supercedes/supercededBy. >> >> 8. Definition errors (repeated text etc) >> >> Several fixes to repeated definition issue highlighted by Simon Spero >> in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2014May/0193.html >> >> Fixing ambiguously mis-defined "departTime" property. It was >> mis-identified in our configuration as "startTime" and so the proposed >> "departTime" property never existed. Given that we already have >> "departureTime" (transport-related), and that 'startTime' already has >> the issue of applying both to FoodEstablishmentReservation >> and to Action, the "departTime" notion should be handled by endTime. >> >> Adjustments to startTime and endTime definitions so that they apply to >> event reservations and >> to Action. >> -- >> Antoine >>
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