Re: MO sameAs

Hi all,

sorry for popping a bit late into the party ;)

On 6/13/2014 4:50 PM, Yves Raimond wrote:
> Sure (cc'ing the MO ML in case I am missing anything - in particular we
> probably should consider adding the n/a ones).
>
> The main classes are OK (Release, Album, Work).
>
> The main issue seems to be around the 'not sure' ones - there's very
> little details about them on the test build, so not entirely sure about
> their meaning. Given they appear in enumerations I am guessing they're
> individuals, but they do seem to be capitalised as classes?
>
> There's a few things that appear to be missing as well, like release
> events, performances, and release status.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com
> <mailto:danbri@google.com>> wrote:
>
>     Can you help me map these maybe? There's a test build up at
>     sdo-music.appspot.com/ <http://sdo-music.appspot.com/> *
>
>
>     <http://schema.org/EPRelease>
>
>
> Can't see any details on that (and related classes) in the test build -
> e.g. http://sdo-music.appspot.com/EPRelease so unsure about what best to
> map it to (are they classes or individuals)?

looks like a release type (cf. http://musicontology.com/specification/) 
to me (cf. http://purl.org/ontology/mo/ep or 
http://purl.org/ontology/mt/EPrecord)
>
>     <http://schema.org/recordLabel>
>
>
> mo:label

good

>
>     <http://schema.org/BroadcastRelease>
>
>
> (no details)

http://purl.org/ontology/mt/Radio

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/CassetteFormat>
>
>
> (n/a)

http://purl.org/ontology/mt/Cassette

>
>     <http://schema.org/hasAlbumReleaseType>
>
>
> mo:release_type

good

>
>     <http://schema.org/iswcCode>
>
>
> mo:iswc

good

>
>     <http://schema.org/firstPerformance>
>
>
> (n/a)

yepp ;)

>
>     <http://schema.org/DVDFormat>
>
>
> mo:DVDA, although that's a 'Medium', not a 'Format', in MO terms (not
> entirely sure though - no details on the schema.org <http://schema.org>
> test build). The same holds for other formats.


http://purl.org/ontology/mt/DVD

also for other media types, see
http://purl.org/ontology/mt/ (which should cover MusicBrainz and Discogs 
media types (at least ;) )

>
>     <http://schema.org/arranger>
>
>
> This would be expressed as the event:agent of an Arrangement event atm.

there is also a class for arrangers available -> 
http://purl.org/ontology/mo/Arranger

>
>     <http://schema.org/DigitalAudioTapeFormat>
>
>
> mo:DAT

or http://purl.org/ontology/mt/DAT

>
>     <http://schema.org/creditedTo>
>
>
> With a range of text as in the test build, not sure (shouldn't it be an
> agent?)
>
>     <http://schema.org/SpokenWordAlbum>
>
>
> mo:spoken_word, I guess, but no details in test build
>
>     <http://schema.org/DigitalFormat>
>
>
> not sure

http://purl.org/ontology/mt/DigitalMedia

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/AlbumRelease>
>
>
> not sure - shouldn't that be a release type instead of a class? (no
> details in test build)

I would also vote for release type here 
(http://purl.org/ontology/mo/album). however, there is also 
http://purl.org/ontology/mt/LPRecord

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/DJMixAlbum>
>
>
> not sure

http://purl.org/ontology/mo/compilation maybe

>
>     <http://schema.org/MusicAlbumReleaseType>
>
>
> mo:ReleaseType

dito

>
>     <http://schema.org/recordedAs>
>
>
> mo:recorded_as in MO links a performance to a recording, not a work to a
> recording, so n/a?
>

yepp (n/a)

>
>     <http://schema.org/musicArrangement>
>
>
> composition to composition property in schema, so n/a (you would go
> through an explicit arrangement event in MO)

dunno, maybe you can clarify the intention of this property a bit more 
detail. "A release of this album" directs in another direction, or?

>
>     <http://schema.org/catalogNumber>
>
>
> mo:catalogue_number

yepp

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/MusicRelease>
>
>
> mo:Release

yepp

>
>     <http://schema.org/LaserDiscFormat>
>
>
>
> n/a

http://purl.org/ontology/mt/LaserDisc

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/trackNumber>
>
>
> mo:track_number

yepp

>
>     <http://schema.org/SingleRelease>
>
>
> (see above)

or http://purl.org/ontology/mo/ep or http://purl.org/ontology/mt/EPRecord

>
>     <http://schema.org/RemixAlbum>
>
>
> not sure

related: http://purl.org/ontology/mo/remix and a "remix album" is then a 
set of remix tracks ;)

>
>     <http://schema.org/hasReleaseFormat>
>
>
> mo:release_format

yepp

>
>     <http://schema.org/StudioAlbum>
>
>
> not sure

dito

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/musicCompositionForm>
>
>
> Wouldn't have a range of text in MO

we currently do not have something like composition forms in MO. I guess 
the will be individuals then.

>
>     <http://schema.org/MixtapeAlbum>
>
>
> not sure

n/a

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/recordingOf>
>
>
> Same issue as with recordedAs

yepp

>
>     <http://schema.org/lyricist>
>
>
>
> foaf:maker of the mo:Lyrics

+1

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/SoundtrackAlbum>
>
>
> not sure

http://purl.org/ontology/mo/soundtrack

>
>     <http://schema.org/hasAlbumProductionType>
>
>
> Conflated with mo:release_type in MO

yepp

(otherwise, elaborate a bit more)

>
>     <http://schema.org/VinylFormat>
>
>
>
> mo:Vinyl

or http://purl.org/ontology/mt/VinylRecord

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/MusicAlbumProductionType>
>
>
> Conflated with mo:ReleaseType

yepp

>
>     <http://schema.org/LiveAlbum>
>
>
> mo:live

yepp

>
>     <http://schema.org/DemoAlbum>
>
>
> n/a

yepp

>
>     <http://schema.org/MusicReleaseFormatType>
>
>
>
> mo:ReleaseType

no, I think http://purl.org/ontology/mo/Medium is appropriated here (or 
http://purl.org/dc/terms/MediaType; see also 
http://purl.org/ontology/mo/media_type + http://purl.org/ontology/mt/).

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/composer>
>
>
>
> foaf:maker of a mo:MusicalWork

see also the composer class http://purl.org/ontology/mo/Composer

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/musicContributor>
>
>
> event:agent of a mo:Performance

or dc(terms):contributor (I think that there also is already the 
schema.org equivalent available, or??

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/MusicComposition>
>
>
> mo:MusicalWork

or http://purl.org/ontology/mo/Composition

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/isrcCode>
>
>
> mo:isrc

yepp

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/CompilationAlbum>
>
>
> n/a

http://purl.org/ontology/mo/compilation

>
>     <http://schema.org/musicalKey>
>
>
> mo:key

yepp

>
>     <http://schema.org/albumRelease>
>
>
> mo:release

yepp

>
>     <http://schema.org/includedComposition>
>
>
> mo:movement or mo:opus, or dcterms:part_of (general case)

ok

>
>     <http://schema.org/releaseOf>
>
>
> mo:publication_of

yepp

>
>
>     <http://schema.org/CDFormat>
>
>
> mo:CD (although that's a medium, not a format)

or http://purl.org/ontology/mt/CD

Cheers,

Bo

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