Re: Bibliography Annotations (WAS Re: Citation markup with Periodical proposal)

The connection between various entities that are part of a bibliography 
entry such as between the article and the journal are the same like the 
ones between  a product and its manufacturer.
I would not worry about that.
Again I would go very similar like bibtex.
Now, defining an entity  http://schema.org/Journal would define 
necessary properties such as  journal numbers, volumes and so on.
So, may be the markup you look for is:

<div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/ScholarlyArticle">
   <span itemprop="author">Aaron Sloman</span>
   <span itemprop="name">Review of Affective Computing</span>,
   <span itemprop="journal" itemscope 
itemtype="http://www.schema.org/Journal">
        <span itemprop="NAME">AI Magazine</span>
       <span itemprop="number"></span>
       <span itemprop="dateCreated" content="...">1999</span>
    </span>
   <span itemprop="pageStart">127</span>
   <span itemprop="pageEnd">133</span>
....
</div>

-Adrian

On 4/9/2014 6:29 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
> Good thought, Adrian. Bibtex is used a lot. I believe that your 
> example has the same problem as my example, as pointed out by Gregg - 
> the connection between the article, the journal itself, the volume of 
> the journal, and the issue.
>
> If you look at how episodes have been defined (e.g. radio episodes) 
> [1] you see something that I think looks more like what you were 
> getting at. That "journal" in the Bibtex case means "journal in which 
> this article is published" in the same way that the episode model uses 
> "partOfSeries".
>
> The advantage of that solution (and I'm sure that there are 
> disadvantages as well) is that the order of the schema.org statements 
> is not necessary to the semantics of the statements.
>
> kc
> [1] http://schema.org/RadioClip
>
> On 4/9/14, 11:56 AM, Adrian Giurca wrote:
>> Hello,
>> If you are interested to propose bibliography annotations, I would
>> suggests to also explore http://www.bibtex.org/
>>
>> (In general, adopting BibTex will really increase the annotated content
>> as many publishers use it.)
>>
>> For example the bibtex entry
>> @Article{journals/aim/Sloman99,
>>    title =    "Review of Affective Computing",
>>    author =    "Aaron Sloman",
>>    journal =    "AI Magazine",
>>    year =     "1999",
>>    number =    "1",
>>    volume =    "20",
>>    url = "http://dblp.uni-trier.de/db/journals/aim/aim20.html#Sloman99",
>>    pages =    "127--133",
>> }
>> would translate to
>>
>> <div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/ScholarlyArticle">
>> <span itemprop="author">Aaron Sloman</span>
>>   (<span itemprop="dateCreated" content="..">1999</span>)
>> <span itemprop="name">Review of Affective Computing</span>,
>> <span itemprop="journal">AI Magazine</span>
>> ....
>> </div>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrian
>>
>>   On 4/9/2014 8:29 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>> I'll start by apologizing for my naive code, but here is an attempt to
>>> mark up a scholarly article citation in MLA format using the
>>> Periodical proposal. This will be a very common use case, IMO. I just
>>> want to be sure that this use case can be simply yet correctly marked
>>> up using the elements of the Periodical proposal.
>>>
>>> First, here's the list of what goes into an MLA citation of this type:
>>>
>>> • author(s)
>>> • article title
>>> • publication title (journal, magazine, etc.)
>>> • volume number
>>> • publication date (abbreviate months, if used)
>>> • the inclusive page numbers
>>> • medium of publication
>>>
>>> The citation, with minimal html (the way most are today, I think):
>>>
>>> <p>Carlyle, Allyson. &quot;Understanding FRBR as a Conceptual Model:
>>> FRBR and the Bibliographic Universe.&quot; <em>Library Resources and
>>> Technical Services,</em> v. 50, no. 4 (October 2006): 264-273. 
>>> Print.</p>
>>>
>>> And my attempt at markup:
>>>
>>> <p>
>>> <div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/ScholarlyArticle">
>>> <span itemprop="author">Carlyle, Allyson.</span>&quot:
>>> <span itemprop="name">Understanding FRBR as a Conceptual Model: FRBR
>>> and the Bibliographic Universe</span>&quot;<em>
>>> <div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Periodical">
>>> <span itemprop="name">Library Resources and Technical
>>> Services</span></div></em>v.
>>> <span itemprop="volumeNumber">50</span>, no.
>>> <span itemprop="issueNumber">4</span>(<span
>>> itemprop="datePublished">October 2006</span>):
>>> <span property="pageStart">264</span>-<span
>>> property="pageEnd">273</span></div> Print.</p>
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried to keep this as simple as possible, but I realized that I
>>> needed a new itemtype to encode the periodical title, since both
>>> article title and periodical title use the itemprop "name". Note that
>>> this example does not surface types "PublicationVolume" and
>>> "PublicationIssue" since I assume that volumeNumber and issueNumber
>>> are sufficiently distinctive.
>>>
>>> If this simple example is correct (if!), then I think that
>>> 1) it would be good to go through a few more citation types, like book
>>> chapters and single volumes of a multi-volume work to see if they also
>>> fit with simple markup
>>> 2) add at least one of those examples to the page
>>>
>>> kc
>>>
>>

-- 
-Adrian
Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/giurca>
LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/adriangiurca>