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Re: Ease of adoption

From: Dawson, Laura <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 00:42:16 +0000
To: Wes Turner <wes.turner@gmail.com>
CC: Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>, Dave Pawson <dave.pawson@gmail.com>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
Message-ID: <CE1C82D5.497B5%laura.dawson@bowker.com>
ActuallyŠand I'm so glad you brought this up!ŠI am thinking of ways to
link concepts *within* books - that Dublin Core and BISAC codes don't
capture. If I am reading "Mists of Avalon", what Arthurian legend
information might be helpful? What understanding of Druids might be
helpful? What other books might have expositions on the roles of women in
the so-called "Dark Ages"?

My colleague, Hugh McGuire, is developing an editorial/production tool for
books that is Wordpress-based (http://Pressbooks.com). But he has not
received funding to incorporate the Wordpress plugins yet. When that
happens, I am ALL OVER IT with public domain material.

I love Worldcat data. What Lorcan Dempsey and his team are doing with it
is incredible.

On 7/29/13 1:49 PM, "Wes Turner" <wes.turner@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Dawson, Laura <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com>
>> What I've been looking for is an interface that allows a "web monkey" or
>> home user to do thisŠin book files. To mark up ebooks semantically, and
>> search engines ingest the files in their indexes, would be a huge leap
>> forward. It would help search, it would help books, it would help
>>society as
>> a whole.
>If I understand your use case correctly:
>* extract metadata from eBook file formats [1] like ePub [2] and Mobi [3]
>* map metadata from existing files to schema.org metadata [4]
>* include that metadata externally in an HTML page [5]
>* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_indexing
>* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_data
>[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_formats
>[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPub
>[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobipocket
>[4] http://schema.org/Book
>[5] http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.html
>> But we are missing three things in that: the Wordpress-y like interface
>> would allow this; the ability for an epub or mobi file to handle this
>> without breaking; and the willingness of the book market to experiment.
>> wit: Authors Guild lawsuit against Google Books regarding indexing and
>> abstracting. Walled garden ebook environments. Etc.)
>"Form-based publishing tools" like schema creator and microdata generator
>provide standalone schema.org markup generating tools. [5][6][7]
>There are ongoing projects for integrating linked data with
>widely deployed applications like Drupal [8][9] and WordPress [10]
>with Schema.org.
>[6] http://schema-creator.org/
>[7] http://www.microdatagenerator.com/
>[9] https://drupal.org/project/schemaorg
>[10] http://wordpress.org/plugins/tags/schemaorg
>CKAN [11][12][13] is also popular.
>WorldCat now shares linked data
>"for its linked dataset of 290+ million bibliographic resources". [14][15]
>[11] http://ckan.org/open-standards/
>[12] http://docs.ckan.org/
>[13] https://github.com/okfn/ckan
>[15] http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/41266045.ttl
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