- From: James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 14:21:00 -0700
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
- Cc: W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>
This looks to be a much more solid piece of work than the previous proposals; and, assuming that things progress with my proposed Activity Streams 2.0 update [1], the two models ought to be able to live comfortably side-by-side, which is very good. [1] https://github.com/jasnell/json-activity/blob/2.0/draft-snell-activitystreams-02.txt As an exercise, I drafted up a few quick examples using the AS 2.0 syntax mapped to the schema.org model, just to make sure that things line up well. (These use a JSON-LD @context to provide the mapping) { "objectType": "http://schema.org/WinAction", "verb": "win", "actor": "acct:joe@example.org", "object": "urn:example:games:tag", "startTime": "2013-07-26T12:12:12Z", "@context": { "objectType": "@type", "actor": "http://schema.org/agent", "object": "http://schema.org/object", "startTime": "http://schema.org/startTime" } } { "objectType": "http://schema.org/ChooseAction", "verb": "choose", "actor": "acct:joe@example.org", "object": "urn:example:options:1", "options": [ "urn:example:options:1", "urn:example:options:2", "urn:example:options:3" ] "@context": { "objectType": "@type", "actor": "http://schema.org/agent", "object": "http://schema.org/object", "options": "http://schema.org/option" } } { "objectType": "http://schema.org/WatchAction", "verb": "watch", "actor": "acct:joe@example.org", "object": { "objectType": { "id": "http://schema.org/Movie", "alias": "video" } "displayName": "Die Hard" }, "@context": { "objectType": "@type", "id": "@id", "actor": "http://schema.org/agent", "object": "http://schema.org/object", "options": "http://schema.org/option" } } - James On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote: > Hi all. Last month we circulated a version of Schema.org Actions for > review; the latest in a series of drafts exploring improvements to our > treatment of actions and activities (URLs below). This is an update on > that work, and a call for feedback and discussion as we move towards > finalising a basic Actions type and initial set of specific Action > subtypes. The schema.org team (this is a collaboration between teams > from Microsoft, Yandex, Yahoo and Google) feels it is close to a final > design for describing "past-tense" actions, and encourages detailed > review of this base Actions schema prior to publication on schema.org. > > > The latest version (and also the most recent, June 2013 draft) does > not include action handler mechanisms or a full treatment of > future/potential actions. Instead, we have focussed on solidifying a > basic Action type plus a hierarchy of specific Action subtypes, > alongside a few associated properties. This is intended as a > foundation for the broader framework (future/potential actions, > handlers etc.) presented in earlier drafts. Today's version differs > from the June draft primarily in polish and detail rather than in > broad direction. > > > There is a test build of the schema.org site available for review: > > > * The basic Action type is at http://sdo-actions.appspot.com/Action > > * The overall Action hierarchy can be browsed via > http://sdo-actions.appspot.com/docs/full.html > > * An alternate HTML view is available at > http://pastehtml.com/view/d957mb0uc.html > > * Source files in RDFa/RDFS (ActionBase.html, ActionTypes.html) are in > W3C's WebSchemas mercurial repo, > https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webschema/file/default/schema.org/ext > > > The core idea is that an Action type defines a handful of re-usable > properties that apply to actions, but that we can clarify and extend > these for specific action types. This allows us to use more > domain-specific language with detailed action types. At a schema level > we can often view these subtype-specific properties as specializations > or sub-properties of the more general Action properties. This approach > balances a desire for human-friendly descriptive language with the > goal of generic and extensible processing of action/activity data. > Future improvements to the schema.org site should make these > sub-property relationships more accessible to both humans and > machines; for now they are indicated via textual descriptions. > > The general 'Action' properties are: agent, instrument, location, > object, participant, result, startTime, endTime. For example, a > specific Action subtype such as > http://sdo-actions.appspot.com/FollowAction might introduce a property > such as http://sdo-actions.appspot.com/followee that we can declare to > be a sub-property of the more general > http://sdo-actions.appspot.com/object. So in this case, we can define > 'followee' ("A sub property of object. The person or organization > being followed.") in terms of 'object', i.e. "The object upon the > action is carried out, whose state is kept intact or changed. Also > known as the semantic roles patient, affected or undergoer (which > change their state) or theme (which doesn't). e.g. John read *a > book*". > > > Schema.org Actions have been designed to integrate fully with the > broader schema.org approach, i.e. it is syntax-agnostic (RDFa, > Microdata, JSON-LD etc.), and draws upon schema.org's existing > vocabulary (large collection of nouns and their properties) and > machinery (type and property hierarchies). The intent is to launch > with a useful package of types that draw upon community experience > (including activity streams) and industry trends. The use of hierarchy > to organize these types aims at providing attachment points that allow > both vocabulary-reuse and independent extensions. Discussion of the > detail and structure of these types is particularly welcome; ideally > via public-vocabs@w3.org, or the W3C WebSchemas Wiki. I can relay > non-public comments to the schema.org team if anyone prefers to do so. > Sam Goto (goto@google.com), one of the co-authors of this work, has > also volunteered to do this next week as I'll be taking some vacation > time; please copy us both to be sure. > > > The schema.org team is keen to move forward with this work, and to > adopt a basic Action type hierarchy that can be subsequently extended > for future/possible actions, handlers etc. We will take a look next > Thursday on discussions so far, and decide whether we have rough > consensus that this work is ready. As you know we can always tweak, > improve and edit published schemas, but any comments on these > near-final efforts would be much appreciated prior to their inclusion > in schema.org. > > > Having said all this, we still have a few final additions and modest > tweaks to make over the coming week to integrate some more action use > cases (e.g. see http://help.yandex.com/webmaster/?id=1127989), but > nothing that should alter substantively what you see. We'll keep you > posted as that evolves, and we expect this thing to continue evolving > incrementally after that. If you read this far, thanks for your > patience and any thoughts you can share on this work. > > > cheers, > > > Dan (for the schema.org team) > > > See http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/ActivityActions for earlier drafts: > * [April2012] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2012Apr/0030.html > * [Nov2012] http://www.w3.org/wiki/images/7/79/Schema.orgActionsMinimaldraft.pdf > * [May2013] http://www.w3.org/wiki/images/3/38/ActionsinSchema.org2013-05-11.pdf > * [June2013] http://www.w3.org/wiki/images/6/6a/Actions_in_Schema.org_-_Draft_3.pdf >
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